Wow, "news to me" that Billy died. so sorry to hear that. He was a great member of the forum community. To Andy the OP, the one "new attitude" that I noticed (after having been away for a year or so, getting married and just being away from music for a while, but now coming back), is that a lot of the newbs are STRIDENT "Sonar is perfect" people. Any problem that someone asks about, will be followed by ten posts (from people who never used older versions of Cake) saying "There is not a bug! MY sonar works perfectly! You must have something wrong with your PC, config, or installation! Cake is always flawless always and never has a problem! YOU must be the dope!" Haha; it is silly sometimes. Three versions later, they will "get honest" and admit that certain features of OLDER versions were less than perfect. BUT, when it is a brand new version, it is always Perfect. Guess it is the honeymoon phase. In the future, when we are all playing with X5, there will be PLENTY of honesty about "Yeah, I guess X2 had some issues way back in 2013". But ask about it NOW and you will hear from the newbs that it is PERFECT. Best, Ed