• SONAR
  • "cricket" sound in exported BFD track
2013/01/17 04:00:13
tomixornot
This is the first project I'm using BFD2 (after having it for sometime, with the latest update version).

I've narrowed it down to the  BFD2 track (all default sound - have not add any extra library yet) :


http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12112929

You can hear the "cricket" effect at 16 and 21 sec.

I'm sure BFD2 had been around long enough to iron out any bug of this kind ? as it's reproducible on every audio export. However, it never happen while playing the track inside X2. 


I've experience some sound not being played completely, but I think that is due to after starting a just opened project and BFD2 is busy loading the samples.


If I do not freeze any track, the 'cricket' effect will be heard on exported audio. If I freeze the BFD2 track, the 'cricket' effect can be heard immediately. All at random spots, most likely after a crash cymbal, but not always.

I'm using BFD2 as a sound module. I do not use any of the BFD2 interface for drum programming, as I'm using Step Sequencer to create the drum track. I have 2 midi tracks controlling BFD2, but these 2 tracks did not play the same sound.


BFD users.. have you came across this kind of issue ?


My BFD2 samples are stored in a separate USB drive - it's not the fastest drive around - will this be an issue ?


Thanks!
2013/01/17 04:04:38
Bristol_Jonesey
I think this is a simple solution.

Immediately before you export or freeze, open the BFD GUI, right at the bottom there is what looks like a label called "Offline"

Click it and it will turn red. Now do your Export/Freeze
2013/01/17 04:26:05
tomixornot
Bristol_Jonesey


I think this is a simple solution.

Immediately before you export or freeze, open the BFD GUI, right at the bottom there is what looks like a label called "Offline"

Click it and it will turn red. Now do your Export/Freeze

Thanks for the tip, after I did that, the 'cricket' effect is less, but I can still hear it twice, within the frozen track.


I'm going to try to bounce the midi drum tracks try importing a midi file to the BFD2 interface and see how it goes, shall update again.
2013/01/17 05:08:08
tomixornot
Freeze Option - disable Fast Bounce.

This setting (together with clicking "offline" to red color in BFD2) seems to produce the a clean BFD2 track after freezing, but it takes much longer time.

Is disabling the Fast Bounce option a common setup for complex multi-gigabyte sample based VSTi ?  
2013/01/17 05:42:23
Bristol_Jonesey
Yep - I have to do that with BFD, even with my rig
2013/01/17 08:20:36
Funkybot
Contact Fxpansion tech support, and try rolling back to a prior version (which you can download from the FXpansion site). If it doesn't happen with a prior version (which is possible) then it's likely that something in the most recent release creates some chirping. From what I remember, there's not really a lot of significant differences between the most recent BFD2 release and the prior version so it's not like you'd be loosing any killer features by rolling back.
2013/01/17 08:23:47
Funkybot
You can also try playing around with the buffer settings on the engine page to see if that helps any, but I'd try a rollback first.
2013/01/17 12:12:28
leapinlizard
tomixornot


Freeze Option - disable Fast Bounce.

This setting (together with clicking "offline" to red color in BFD2) seems to produce the a clean BFD2 track after freezing, but it takes much longer time.

Is disabling the Fast Bounce option a common setup for complex multi-gigabyte sample based VSTi ?  


I've read several posts in the forum where little exported audio anomalies were cured by disabling Fast Bounce.  Now, I always disable Fast Bounce before doing an export, and it seems to work perfectly every time.
2013/01/17 13:36:15
tomixornot
Thanks for the suggestion.

@Funkybot : I downloaded the latest public beta, still the same, shall try rolling back now.

@leapinlizard : disabling Fast Bounce seems the best solution so far.. 
2013/01/17 23:36:05
noynekker
Interesting . . . I use BFD2 (v2.3.0.38), and have Fast Bounce on, and BFD's "Offline Mode" turned off.

BFD2 is inserted as a simple instrument track, no freezing of the track is done at all, the current kit is 862 MB.

Haven't had any crickets sounds, or other anomalies, seems like a clean mixdown when exporting from Sonar X2a.
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