Anyone using this in 64 bit?

The specs state a 32 bit OS, or VSTi host

Wondering if bit bridge would do the trick

Well I can answer half your question.  I'm working in Sonar 32-bit and Catanya does work -- exactly once.

Sonar has a long and well-documented problem with handling multiple MIDI-Enabled VSTi plugins.  It you want just one instance of one MIDI VSTi then it works just great.  But two or more MIDI VSTi's will often lead to heartbreak, frustration and lots and lots of crashing, as well as long exchanges with the overworked Support folks.

If you're committed to using Sonar as a DAW then I strongly recommend that you subhost your MIDI VSTi plugins through something like Energy XT.  This provides a much more flexible and stable working environment for MIDI VSTi's like Catanya.  Obviously if MIDI VST instruments are your primary reason for having a DAW then this is particularly unwelcome news.  Fortunately Energy XT is cheap and pretty intuitive to get up and running as a subhost without needing to learn the program from end to end.  It's a stopgap solution while we [continue to] wait for this bug to be addressed.

Hopefully someone else can comment on the 64-bit aspects...

Thanks for the info
That's enough for me to stay away - I do mostly VST-midi compilations so you're right - not good news

Maybe someday - but not now
I have enough in the way of getting to make music, as I'm sure a lot of us do

Plus I contacted 7aliens about 64 bit (twice) with zero response - so...........

I'm not suggesting you stay away from Catanya.  I quite like it!  And Thesys makes a great companion to it.  But if you're a MIDI based musician then sooner or later you're going to run up against the problem and energyXT makes a pretty tidy solution for the time being.  It's a nodal program so the routing of MIDI is easy and intuitive.

It's unfortunate that you need to add yet another DAW type package, but that's not really 7 Aliens fault.  It's a Sonar issue, not a Catanya issue.  Get ahold of some demos and give it a whirl.

Well that explains a lot...thanks Greysound.  And lines up with exactly what I am seeing using multiple instances of Catanya.  Too bad....having multiple instances playing and changing patterns in real time looks like a lot of fun...but no soup for us Sonar people.  (hey cake...any comments ??)

I do not think I will spend a lot more time trying to play with this particular set up.  (Multiple instances for a full on trance party!!)

For me,  just using a single instance and recording midi in real time is a great leap forward.  So for me is still worth the money.
 
(But still dissappointed it does not work as advertised, and that it is likely my DAWs fault, not the plug in)

JR

Have you tried the demo?  Using 32 bit, the demo didn't work for me on DXi synths (tts-1) but I took a chance and the full version work well.  Just don't expect more than 1 instance. To me, if it works with bitbridge in the demo, you should be fine.  Try multiple instances too, to see if it work for you, and post your findings. 


I agree 7Aliens haven't been too responsive thus far, however I've found them posting to other forums:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3709025

In relation, he claims to 'use at your own risk' on Win 64.


To the group, is it worth it for all of us to opening up a trouble ticket to Cakewalk on this issue?  I just have a feeling that there would be fingerpointing back and forth.  Of course Dim Pro, Rapture and others all work with multiple instances because of either partnerships or extensive testing.  Would be cool if we can get them to talk to each other.

It also doesn't make sense to me that Catanya needs an audio track.  I see that there's options in the VSTi to turn it off, but didn't work for me.  Can only get one instance to work thus far. 

Catanya is a very cool plugin, even if only one instance.  The patterns alone are quite amazing, and the interface is quite nice.  After seeing the 'working' Sonar Arp and being stuck with presets, I had to have it.  I felt like I was writing a Billy Joel track with some of the ballad piano presets.  It's a nice tool, and is quite exciting to work with.

At worst, you can bounce to midi clips and move forward with other tracks.  I'd rather have the multiple instances though.  That was a selling point for me.

Just strange that we can run multiple copies of Dim Pro, Rapture, etc. but not of Catanya, which seems to be less intensive, as it generates midi.  I bet it's some audio issue that causes the hang.
 

For any interested parties - 7aliens just emailed me that they are issuing a 64 bit version in 2010

If any one is interested...I tried a slightly different set up and got essentially the same results.  (a little more stable, but still un-useable)

I used 2 midi and 2 audio tracks for each instance of Cantanya.  And I set up 3 instances of Catanya again (12 tracks in total)  (did not use simple instrument tracks and did not use synth rack.  I inserted all vstis in fx bins)

Now the project seems to be able to play continuously, and with very low CPU usage, but as soon as you touch anything (any Sonar transport function, change arp pattern, open up soft synth, etc. etc. ) Sonar crashes.  (What Sonar does is freeze up and play a continuous low tone until you ctrl-alt-del the program - this is probably my driver - you may get different results ?? )

Brammer -  I am running 32 bit - how will a 64 bit version fix things if there is a basic mdi mapping / buffer issue using midi output enabled vsti's as greysound has indicated ?

Jeff

Hey Guys I too own Catanya and I sent them an email about adding more than one instance in Sonar 8.5.2 , I did receive and email back from Ludimila Flipikova and was told that they are looking into it. So they are aware..
 I find it easy just to add one instance , and as many soft synths as I like I create Simple Instrument tracks highlight the instrument arm it and Record the pattern into midi notes, all can be one same midi channel only highlighted one will play with catanya unless you have anything on that track.. I also drag those notes to other instruments with effects ect.. Really cool .. Also you can record and change the patterns on the fly as you record and it captures all the changes to midi notes ..

 
I finally received a note from 7alens, too, saying that they're looking into it.
 
I submitted a ticket to Cakewalk, regarding this: CWBRN-2296  just not sure how it will be handled.
 
Greysound, saw your add to the   "Cakewalk, any new info on THESE bugs"
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1643436&high=enable+midi+output+bug
 
I tried to add some additional detail to the ticket, but no dice thus far.  I suggest another Sonar/Catanya user add another ticket, specifying the above thread.