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  • Is sonar X2 hard to use? (p.2)
2013/01/11 15:01:38
garrigus
The three versions of SONAR are identical except for the features that they provide. So they work the same, but Essentials has less features available than Studio and Producer.

Scott

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2013/01/11 15:05:33
Beepster
@TraceyStudios... I think even the hardcore veteran users experienced quite a bit of pain between the 8.? versions and X1. The whole Aero stuff looks quite different from the old vids I've seen. Glad I missed that transition. Sometimes the old threads from that time period come up and... well... they don't look very civil. lol
2013/01/11 15:07:07
Beepster
Yeah, seems silly to get Essentials because it's "easier". Looks like exactly the same thing except you have less tools to work with which to me would make creating music harder.
2013/01/11 15:14:51
Jim Roseberry
IMO, The basic recording/editing/mixing features are pretty to use in X2 (and Cubase 7 and Studio One 2 Pro for that matter).

The "basics" are pretty similar across all the popular DAW applications.
Once you're familiar with one app, it's pretty easy to digest another.

As was mentioned, if you don't have experience with any DAW application, it will be a learning curve no matter which app you choose.

Download the X2 demo and give it a whirl...


2013/01/11 15:16:31
sharke
I think the basics of any DAW are pretty easy to learn, as long as you have some guidance in the form of a manual and/or tutorials. It's like learning any complicated system...if your initial goal is to learn the program in its entirety - how everything works and relates to everything else - then you're going to get overwhelmed and bogged down very quickly. However like most complex systems it can be broken down into smaller parts which are easier to understand in themselves. I'm pretty sure there's a "Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance" type point I'm trying to make here. 

In terms of getting up and running, all you need to know is how to set up your audio device, how to set inputs and outputs, then the basics of audio recording/playback. Then I guess how to work with synths and basic piano roll editing, as well as how to insert and use plugs, and the basics of the mixing console. All of that stuff will come to you very quickly.

When I first learned Pro Tools I took in as much as I needed to know to get some audio and MIDI into the program, and how to edit/mix it. Then I put the book down and started making music. I did exactly the same thing with Sonar. I find it helps to learn the program in conjunction with the creation of a experimental song. Once you have enough of the basics down to make a tune, you'll start to make one. And as soon as the creative juices are flowing, you're going to be led naturally into the other features of the program and learn how to use those too. In any case, that's how I generally learn how to use a program. Learn just enough to start being creative, and the rest will come in time out of necessity.

But that's me. Other people might prefer to sit down and read the whole manual back to back before they even start a project. I however am of the opinion that our brains are wired to learn by the practical method I've described above. 
2013/01/11 15:22:32
Marcus Curtis
There is most definitely a learning curve. It will just take some time to figure stuff out. The more features there are the longer it takes to learn. Looking back I can say that the professional version with all the additional features was worth every dime. 

But that is just for my own personal needs. The good news is there are plenty of videos on cakewalks website to get you up and going. Karl has some good videos on You Tube that will help too.

Getting your head around some of these concepts can be challenging. Once I understood the basic concepts I found it to be pretty straight forward. I found addition videos very helpful. The Groove 3 pass will help you. SWA complete will help as well.
2013/01/11 15:37:58
robert_e_bone
Several folks included this - Sonar X2 is available for a free 30-day trial, and as it is fully-functional you can spend some time getting familiar with the different placement of things, along with the basic functionality.

I believe your own conclusions are the best ones reached, and you do have 30 days to reach them.

I will also say that there are quite a few folks here in the forum that will help you as you work through the learning process, and that's a nice thing to have.  We'll do our best to have your back, even if you are French (kidding - really just kidding).  :)

Good luck in any case with your quest to make music, 

Bob Bone

2013/01/11 15:53:47
backwoods
Sonar is one of the old brigade of feature rich DAWs- Sonar, Logic, Cubase, Samplitude, DP etc. They are not simple and induce noob rage for people who want to just use everything without thinking about it.

If you crave simplicity you might be better with one of the lean daws like ableton or Studio one
2013/01/11 16:01:07
synkrotron
godparticle


can you please tell me how hard the learning curve is

What are you going to be doing with your DAW?


DAWs are so powerful nowdays and have grown, along with its aging user base. A lot of us here have grown up with what ever DAW we use and perhaps take it for granted at how much time we have spent learning about our marvellous tool.


So, will you be doing mainly audio tracking/mixing/mastering or MIDI stuff, or a mixture of the two?
2013/01/11 18:04:37
Bristol_Jonesey
Good points Andy.

And it's worth pointing out that it really can be easy enough to record a few audio tracks, provided you've got mics/guitars/amps/whatever + a reasonable interface and get your efforts down.

The complexity come after that when you get into the realms of midi, mixing, editing.

What computer do you intend to use?
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