Just asking here...but doesn't your audio get saved in the audio folder whether the file gets saved or not?  Big PITA to get things back in place,  but the audio is still there right??

The only "hard" crashes I've had involved IK's CSR and/or Ampeg SVX.
Now that CSR is included in TRackS and SVX is in Amplitude 3, all is well there.
Lots of flaky "Lanes" behavior though.
Suddenly I can't slip edit or fade clips.
Not quite ready for prime time to be sure.

Tom

I am sooooo sorry for all the folks who have these issues.

I do VERY basic tracks, almost exclusively MIDI, with guitar and vocals, and I literally never crash Sonar, and haven't since 8.5.3.  I don't know if it is that I am not doing much in the way of utilizing all of the features, or if it is because I did my homework on the computer I built (and the last 3), or what - it just does not crash on me.

I wish I knew more about the software, so that I could better assist those having trouble.  I AM watching as many of those videos as I can with that 30-day pass, trying to learn about setting up and routing to additional busses, and side-chaining, and all of that, so HOPEFULLY I will be better able to help when it is possible to do so.

What I will start doing is to try to replicate the steps causing errors for others, as best I can, because for whatever reason the errors do not seem to be triggered on my system, and maybe in the process of this I can help find solutions or workarounds, or at least provide additional info for bug submission.

Bob Bone

This probably isnt that helpful, but i have been pro actively trying to narrow down why i get x2 crashes over the past couple of months..

I find that when using 64 bit plugins and synths only, sonar x2 is pretty stable. I dont run uad stuff which seems to be problematic. i think they now have 64 bit drivers released in december..

When using 32bit synths or plugins... and a good few of them, thats when i run into troubles. I am of course running 64bit sonar.
I have tested only using sonar 64 bit plugins and effects and it is rock solid.

The other thing i have noticed is that i have a lot of USB devices connected to the computers own usb ports which i found to be troublesome.
I had a minibrute/tetra/maschine/scralett 8i6 all in the motherboards usb ports, as well as mouse, qwerty keys, external hd. 

I was advised to get a seperate usb card and run as many hardware synths (minibrute,maschine,xv5050 etc) into this seperate usb card, which runs on a seperate usb bus, leaving mouse, qwerty keyboard and drive using the motherboards usb ports.
It does work better and more stable since then. Getting rid of default omni midi settings also helps and setting up devices to respond to exclusive midi channles for them may well have helped as well.

non x2 Plugins that are rock solid for me in x2 are...
Massive/Maschine or any NI stuff/diva/all free 64 bit plugs on kvrs site/izotope5advanced/

Getting rid of default omni midi settings also helps and setting up devices to respond to exclusive midi channles for them helped a lot as well.

...As does having an autosave on every 20-30 changes. Thats a good feature instead of setting it to every 20 minutes or so.

Agree it can be extremely frustrating. Just my experiences trying to get a stable system, by no means gospel. You have probably tried all of that. Anyway..

Hope it gets sorted.

robert_e_bone

I am sooooo sorry for all the folks who have these issues.

... I literally never crash Sonar, and haven't since 8.5.3.

What I will start doing is to try to replicate the steps causing errors for others ...

Bob Bone

Well here's one you can test Bob. Last night after posting in this thread, I fired up a project in X2. I cloned a midi track, and then double clicked a clip on the original track to open the Step Sequencer and Sonar crashed immediately when I double clicked the clip. I had been opening up these clips all night and working with them, what was different was the fact that I cloned the track.


Anyway, the automated trouble reporter came up and created a dump file and I ok'd it to go to Cakewalk and gave them my email address with an explanation of what I was doing and the trouble reporter screen turned white and showed the message "Not Responding". I waited a while and then it came back to life and went through.

@ Robert,
Pretty basic combo of VOX, Guitars and midi here as well.
8.5.3 very stable, but that was patched; 8.5 then 8.5.2 then 8.5.3.
X1c & d Expanded, very stable 3 tries in!
X2a, all x64, pretty good; EXCEPT these "niggles" with the lanes.
I'm sure the next patch will get it sorted.
And Hey, I'm happy for you, these little tech things are the "spark" killers for me.
Serious work, X1d Expanded; been doing some "covers" in X2a, we'll get there...

T