Hi, before I expand on my thread I should say the pc I use to edit video and photos is an Intel quad core with 8gb of ram running windows 8 - so I'm not a luddite!  The question is - why can't I use this pc to make music?
 
Well like many people I have some expensive external sound interfaces and basically the hardware manufacturers are being very slow at releasing drivers, the irony being two of my interfaces are made by Roland who are the parent company of Cakewalk!  So my main music pc is still running windows xp, and I suspect a lot of people still are running xp too.
 
It's even more ironic that my friend recently purchase a Boss BR-800, a stand alone 8 track recorder that can be used as an interface that came with Sonar le (and it still a current product) and that hasn't got a windows 8 driver.
 
So you see the problem.
 
Any way: the original release of Sonar X2 runs fine on windows XP but of course X2a will not even install. So my request is any chance of a minor bug fix release for XP users based on the above?

Absolutely no chance of that happening.

keithwm


Hi, before I expand on my thread I should say the pc I use to edit video and photos is an Intel quad core with 8gb of ram running windows 8 - so I'm not a luddite!  The question is - why can't I use this pc to make music?
 
Well like many people I have some expensive external sound interfaces and basically the hardware manufacturers are being very slow at releasing drivers, the irony being two of my interfaces are made by Roland who are the parent company of Cakewalk!  So my main music pc is still running windows xp, and I suspect a lot of people still are running xp too.
 
It's even more ironic that my friend recently purchase a Boss BR-800, a stand alone 8 track recorder that can be used as an interface that came with Sonar le (and it still a current product) and that hasn't got a windows 8 driver.
 
So you see the problem.
 
Any way: the original release of Sonar X2 runs fine on windows XP but of course X2a will not even install. So my request is any chance of a minor bug fix release for XP users based on the above?

WHY are you using 8 GB RAM on XP? XP can only use and see 3GB MAX.
 
You say you edit video. Then you have even more reasons go Windows 7 x64bit. By the way, its not just SONAR not supporting XP any more, Cubase 7 too and others. All new DAWs and other program doesn't support XP. Why? Its because they need x64bit support and functionality that are only found in Windows 7 x64 and Windows 8 x64.
XP and 32 bit is just game over. Get over it!

I don't have windows 8 drivers for my vs100 yet, but I do have windows 7 drivers. I am still waiting for windows 8 drivers. I will not upgrade to windows 8 if I am required to buy new hardware. 

If Cakewalk releases Sonar X3 only for windows 8 then I would not buy it. This is because of the hardware updates I need for my midi controllers and my audio interfaces. 

My point is cakewalk knows that without the proper drivers that are needed for there hardware they will not sell future versions of Sonar. They know that people hold off on upgrading operating systems until they can can get drivers for their hardware. I know that they are working on new drivers for all their hardware products right now.

I am sure that they will release newer versions soon. The official release of windows 8 has not really been out a long time. As I recall it took a few years for hardware vendors to release drivers for vista. At least this was the case for some of the hardware I had.

I think this is why vista had a lot of problems to begin with. I have been running Windows 7 with virtual mode for XP just because of some of the older applications I still need.

   Hey Freddie, Xp had a 64bit version too..........just sayin'

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   Hey Freddie, Xp had a 64bit version too..........just sayin'

Yeah several years ago I made the mistake of trying to go that route. Anyone who thinks trying to get hold of drivers for Win 8 is hard should've tried it for XP x64 - that's the definition of hard work.

Nope, XP is over for SONAR. Vista isn't officially supported, but it still works (even with the X2a update). Win 7 and Win 8 are the only ones officially supported.

Scott

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keithwm


Hi, before I expand on my thread I should say the pc I use to edit video and photos is an Intel quad core with 8gb of ram running windows 8 - so I'm not a luddite!  The question is - why can't I use this pc to make music?

If you mean "with a supported OS" -- well, you could have -- with a bit of research/foresight prior to purchasing the PC.
 
Windows 7 is still widely available online and bundled with "select" systems.   Also, there are plenty of places to have a PC built to your specs with Win7.
 
I myself just built two i7 quad-core systems - both with Windows 7 (One for DAW use).   I've purchased the Win 8 upgrade, but won't install it until I'm sure all of my hardware and software is supported.  
 
It's a tack many DAW users are taking.
 
Needless to say, you are finding out one of the pitfalls of having the "latest and greatest". 
 
That said, there might still be a solution.  Is this a new PC that came with Win8, or did you upgrade?  If the latter, then you can also downgrade to Win7.
 
Good luck.
 
 
  
 

 

Dual-boot:
Win 7 64-bit (works GREAT with Sonar X1 and X2!)
Win 8 (it's there, but not making the real jump yet).

High-capacity drives are cheap; partitioning & running completely separate OS's would give you the options of having the best of both worlds!!

IMHO:
Win XP was - and in some cases - still IS a great OS; Vista, not so much.
XP is now very "old" by computer standards, so it's really not unexpected for support to dwindle
(DAW software manufacturers aren't the only one's taking that approach)

Win 7 is mature & stable enough that it is likely to be supported for a LONG time by Microsoft & OEM's. 
It will probably be quite some time before many hardware OEM's depend solely on devices that REQUIRE Windows 8.

FastBikerBoy

APC3


   Hey Freddie, Xp had a 64bit version too..........just sayin'

Yeah several years ago I made the mistake of trying to go that route. Anyone who thinks trying to get hold of drivers for Win 8 is hard should've tried it for XP x64 - that's the definition of hard work.

   Oh I know, it was just the fact that he jumped on the ram issue, I had to say something. It felt like every other member of the forum at that time had either a dual boot system or a spare system with x64 on it, and although I think one of the most painful experiences with an OS I've ever had was probably XP x64.... I do believe it really gave all of us a glimpse of what the future held.
   I do realize that 32bit OS are still around, but it really seems inevitable that they will seize to exist and I don't have a problem with that, it's only for the better. I really hope Windows 8 is as promising as it looks and AFAIK, Win 7 x64 has been an amazing experience, I hope Win 8 will continue that.
   Anyways, I just had to say something, because I read that and all the XP x64 heartache came back and thought to myself oooh no you can in XP, but.............