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2012/12/20 00:30:19
QuadCore
  Barczar: "So is this good for an untreated room? Or do I still need some room treatment?" ... ... ... Yes, it will do more work to improve the sound in an untreated room, but it will make a greater difference to it too. A well treated room makes it work not as hard, so the difference will not be as drastic but it will still be an improvement, so it's a win win either way. Ultimately the best result will be from ACRing an already well treated room.
2012/12/20 01:09:53
adeptus minor
Room treatment is always good, no matter what. And like Quad says, the best results will be from a well treated room. 
With that said, how much room treatment can you get for 300$? I plan on starting to treat this room in Jan (holidays, must spend money on other people ;) ), but from looking around it seems like 300$ would get you around 4 bass traps at most. After doing REW measurements for this room (10x20x9), I will have to spend around 1.5k or so to get it where I want it.
For the price, I would say ARC makes a bigger difference per first 300$ spent compared to room treatment money spent, IMO. Here is a pic of the ARC2 measurements of my speakers (the orange line), and the correction afterwards (the white line)
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28102134/arc2.JPG
2012/12/20 03:57:58
GIM Productions
It's fantastic mix weapon!After install ARC 2 (all measures)i can hear the rev tails more detailed and in difficult kind of music prjs (incognito style)i can put the instruments in the right place more easily (ADAM,K&H).Good luck.
2012/12/20 07:08:27
gustabo
Room treatment, IMO, is a must and ARC is (pun-intended), icing on the cake!
2012/12/20 07:15:29
Bristol_Jonesey
adeptus minor


Room treatment is always good, no matter what. And like Quad says, the best results will be from a well treated room. 
With that said, how much room treatment can you get for 300$? I plan on starting to treat this room in Jan (holidays, must spend money on other people ;) ), but from looking around it seems like 300$ would get you around 4 bass traps at most. After doing REW measurements for this room (10x20x9), I will have to spend around 1.5k or so to get it where I want it.
For the price, I would say ARC makes a bigger difference per first 300$ spent compared to room treatment money spent, IMO. Here is a pic of the ARC2 measurements of my speakers (the orange line), and the correction afterwards (the white line)
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28102134/arc2.JPG


If you're reasonably handy with a saw you can reduce that $1,500 a lot by going DIY for a lot of your treatment
2012/12/20 09:08:05
Counting Coup
I have a pretty well treated room but am still constantly surprised by ARC2. I think it's essential if you are not working in a specially designed environment. However, until they implement some sort of auto-bypass system, you have to be constantly vigilant to remove it before rendering. It's very easy to be caught out!
2012/12/20 10:27:54
GIM Productions
Hi Counting Cup,can i help you?You can create a ARC bus.It must be the last bus of the prj just after the Master bus.In this way you can export all your prj on Master bus without worrying about forgetting ARC enabled.Best.Roby
2012/12/20 11:43:28
Counting Coup

Hi Gim. Good thinking batman! Let me have a play with that. 

(Where I also get caught time again is in CD Architect, where your plugs are obscured :-) 

However, there should be a way for it to say, "here comes a render, I should go into bypass". No?

Thanks
David
2012/12/20 15:34:03
TraceyStudios
I haven't received mine yet, but reading thru the posts raised a question. Sounds like some folks are "setting up" and measuring each time they mix. Why? Is it possible to measure and save the settings and reuse them? My room doesn't change size, shape and my console, computer, speakers are stationary and shouldn't change. I understand if I rearranged the room or added large objects or treatment, I would need to setup and measure again. If I mixed last night, and stopped and the wanted to mix more today, do I need to measure again ?


Just a thought - because home recording is so common and popular, i would think most folks (especially beginners) are using a spare room/bedroom, a non treated room / non engineered environment; may be a good upgrade / option for cakewalk to include or offer. I purchased ARC so I will never need to buy another, however if I hadn't I would def use a cakewalk version (if it existed).  I have also seen posts which show a poor man's version, using pink/white noise files and a outboard eq and instructions on how to achieve similar. the software version sounds much easier.
2012/12/20 15:39:32
Counting Coup
No. You only "sample" the room once; and should you change your room around, then you should do it again. You can also store multiple listening positions and areas of the room. It's all terribly well thought out: you will love it!
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