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2012/12/29 20:52:55
Danny Danzi
Thanks David. I meant to update this. It appears on my end, that it's the old correction files being used on the newer version of the software. Tom and I exchanged ARC filter files. His from a correction made with 1.3.1, mine with a correction made on 1.1.1.

On my system, his correction loads up perfectly and does not need to be intiated. On HIS system, my correction works perfectly and doesn't misbahave. Weird.....so I'm at a loss, but it's definitely gremlins on my end. If I could make it through a correction procedure with 1.3.1 without a crash at the end, I believe that will solve my problem. I'm going to maybe try it tonight or tomorrow when I get a little down time. Thanks for taking part in this...and thanks to Tom for sharing the correction with me. :)

-Danny
2013/01/04 11:48:02
TraceyStudios
Ok folks, been using the ARC2 for a bit now, and thought I would post a few things that are good to know for anyone thinking of using it.

1) the ARC is inserted on the master bus, so it has monitor feature which allows you to change the volume, this also effects the levels of your master bus, so sometime I think I am clipping when in fact I wouldn't be if I was not using the ARC2, other time I would be clipping without using it. So I play the song with the ARC off and watch the level meter on the master bus, and turn on the arc and adjust the ARC monitor volume so the volumes are consistent. Took me a few days and a few mixes to figure this out.

2) prior to getting the ARC2, I had the high freq of my KRK Rokit 8s attenuated quite a bit, once I calibrated with ARC2, I noticed the highs seemed distorted during play back. Thought I had issues, After mixdown and listened on another computer, the distortion was not in the mix. I looked at the graph in ARC which shows before/after/target and I noticed in the Before section, I had signifigant hi freq roll off, and ARC corrected it.  I think the ARC eq had to add lots of high end to flatten out the room, thus causing a bit of distorion. So I turned up the hi- freq on my monitors re calibrated/ measured and the distortion is now gone during play back.


3) Now that my room has been "corrected" or "corrected" as much as it can, I am thinking I may need to get another set of monitors with smaller woofers, currently I have krk rokit 8s, however they don't quite have the midrange detail, they sound great for the low end. I am not planning to get rid of them, just add a pair of 5" or 6" monitors and have the ability to A/B them, (Anyone have any suggestions for a good 5" or 6" monitor?).

4) You would think that remembering to disable the ARC2 on the master bus, prior to mixdown, would be an easy and minor thing to remember, but I forget almost every time! Drives me crazy!!! LOL!



Just wanted to share, hopefully this information will be helpful.  Overall, I am very happy with the ARC2. I has made a positive impact on my mixes
2013/01/04 11:52:51
Beepster
I really wish I could afford ARC. I have done much yet but my set up in the new room is sounding kind of wonky to me.
2013/01/04 11:58:01
TraceyStudios
2013/01/04 12:07:00
Beepster
Freaking awesome! Thanks, dude.

That bitflipper sure is one smart cookie. Cheers.
2013/01/04 12:27:20
TraceyStudios
There are lots of smart cookies on this forum! :)
2013/01/04 13:08:41
stuhldreher
Danny, thanks for the insights on ARC.  Do you use the ARC plug for any of your mastring? 
also anyone have both T-Racks and ARC2?  ARC2 does not currently work with T-Racks, the complay said their working on this, which really sucks... anybody hear about when ARC2 will be compatable with T-Racks?
thanks
Randy
 
2013/01/04 17:40:19
southpaw3473
I found ARC 2 on Ebay for $165. I ordered it and am very excited to put it to work.  My studio is treated (control room and drum/iso room are small bedrooms) to some extent but the allure of well translated mixes is too hard to resist.

And I want to reiterate what was said earlier. Bitflipper and Danny Danzi along with many others like Karl (Fast Biker Boy), Bapu, Panu, et al have been saviors. I can't tell how many times I've had issues or problems and they have come to the rescue. I've been in the Sonar world for 4 or 5 years now and I don't think I could have accomplished 1/4 of what I've done in the studio without their sensible knowledge and selflessness.  They are always willing to help.  Thanks!


2013/01/04 19:14:13
ptheisen
TracyStudios (and any other ARC users with similar issues),
 
With a bit of reconfiguration, you can eliminate issues 1 and 4 that you described above.
 
A) Instead of having the output of your master bus go to the mains bus that is connected to your speakers, change the output of the master bus to go to another mains bus, for example, one that your headphones can access.
 
B) Insert a new stereo bus with corresponding send on the master bus. You could call this new bus "ARC" or "Speakers" or something like that. The send level should stay at 0 (unity).
 
C) Remove the ARC plug-in from the master bus and instead place it on the new bus.
 
D) Set the output of the new bus to go to the mains bus that is connected to your speakers.
 
E) Make this configuration part of the template(s) you use for starting projects so that you don't have to do it each time.
 
This configuration guarantees that ARC will have the desired effect on your speakers, yet not affect anything else, like exports, headphones, etc. You may still want to remember to disable ARC for those times that you're concerned about CPU use or latency.
 
I hope I explained this so it can be understood, because it works great. I know other people here are already doing the same thing.
2013/01/07 13:40:37
TraceyStudios
ptheisen: Thanks, that's a great solution! The best answers always seem the simplest, yet I never think of them! LOL.

Thanks!!!
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