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2013/01/07 15:18:00
BCnSTL
I have ARC. Haven't used it in quite some time. I couldn't get it to not sound obviously 'weird' and phasey. I did the setup meticulously 3x over. Oh well. I added more room treatment and a 2nd set of monitors. 

Not a fan myself but it's cool that it's working well for so many others.  I'd sell it but re-selling software is a PITA ime.
2013/01/07 15:23:43
DeeringAmps
BC,
Are you SURE the recorded signal was not coming back thru the speakers?
That would cause the "phasey" issue you are experiencing.

Tom
2013/01/07 16:49:04
BCnSTL
How could the recorded sound come back through the speaker?
2013/01/07 17:22:41
Atsuko
Hi, Guys,
 
a friend is going to bring me ARC System 2 from the US, at the end of this month so, in order to become acquainted with the subject, I've been
reading a lot about it in the forum (besides trying to get the manual in the web with no success), but still there're some doubts I'm sure someone can help me:
 
1) Why do we have to turn off ARC when we're in the process of mixing down?
 
2) To simply listen to a song, will we have to disable ARC or is it ok to have it turned on all the time, except when mixing down?
 
3) During measurements, the air conditioner can be on?
 
4) I have an audio card (M-Audio Delta 1010LT) that doesn't have phantom power but I have a mixer Behringer Xenix 1204 that has. Do you think That I can loose something during measurements because I'll have to intermediate the audio card with the mixer?
 
Thanks,
Ane Atsuko
2013/01/07 18:09:08
DeeringAmps
BC,
Its called "Direct Monitoring" or "Zero Latency".
The interface lets you hear the signal before (or "as" really) Sonar gets it.
If your interface is direct capable you have to turn that off when doing the test measurements.
Simple as that.
List your interface so we call tell if its "Direct" capable.

T
2013/01/07 21:19:46
BCnSTL
Yeah, that isn't happening. The phasey-ness is there all-the-time, not just when recording a live source - as would be the case in what you describe.  

But I'm not ragging on ARC. It sounds like it's working great for many. I'm just sharing my personal not-so-great experience with it. 
2013/01/07 21:52:16
TraceyStudios
Atsuko,
 
Q1) Why do we have to turn off ARC when we're in the process of mixing down? 
Answer - If you set it up like ptheisen, then you won't have to shut it down. The software is just there to "fix" any room issues you have. If you had it on the master bus, then your mix would be eq'd for your mix/recording room only. But set it up like ptheisen and should work fine.
 
Q2) To simply listen to a song, will we have to disable ARC or is it ok to have it turned on all the time, except when mixing down?
 
Answer - sure, however you may want it on all the time it won't hurt anything.
 
Q3) During measurements, the air conditioner can be on?
Answer, If the A/C is in your room, you should turn it off until you are done measuring, if the A/C is in another part of the house, then you should be fine.
 
Q4) I have an audio card (M-Audio Delta 1010LT) that doesn't have phantom power but I have a mixer Behringer Xenix 1204 that has. Do you think That I can loose something during measurements because I'll have to intermediate the audio card with the mixer?
 
Answer, maybe, but the software should get you close, I would set everyting to 0 on the eq section of the mixer. Again this tools is to "fix" your room EQ, it does a very good job, but it can't fix it 100%. so user reference tracks when you mix!!!! I am learning that as we speak, it helps alot!!
 
I hope I helped.
T
 
2013/01/08 07:57:35
Freddie H
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/arc/index.php?pp=arc-system-video


In my humble opinion, I just say Toys for KIDS!
If you if you have success with it good for you but I think it's better to treat the room correctly. That is a much better solution
2013/01/08 08:27:28
wizard71
And in my humble opinion I say for the ££ it's the best answer to your problems.
Most people either don't have the money or a studio dedicated enough to fill it with real room treatment. ARC is FAR from being a toy for kids.

Bibs
2013/01/08 09:03:16
Danny Danzi
Freddie H


http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/arc/index.php?pp=arc-system-video


In my humble opinion, I just say Toys for KIDS!
If you if you have success with it good for you but I think it's better to treat the room correctly. That is a much better solution

Far from a toy. I'd like to see you eq/flatten your monitors with room treatment. :) It's simply not possible. This is what non-believers fail to realize. Even if you don't believe it helps your room, rest assured, it will flatten your monitors better than having a pro come to your studio to do it. If anyone gets anything out of ARC, that alone should be enough.
 
-Danny
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