750Swiss Franks

That's about the price of a capuccino in Zurich - great deal for Sonar!

ORIGINAL: John

OK how many here believe that CW is ripping us off in this, class, raise your hands? That was the tenor of the OP's post after all.

Nope. Not at all.

I paid my $19 when I bought Project 5 about 4 years ago... and appreciate having the security of something that works without me having to spend a lot of time fidgeting with it.

In some ways, it's a convenience thing: I already owned Adobe Audition, which includes the mp3 encoder/decoder, so I didn't really need the CW one. This way, I needn't switch apps to make an mp3.

Cheers,

Russ

ORIGINAL: loach

May could try this as well

http://cwenc.sourceforge.net/

ORIGINAL: cwenc.sourceforge.net
Unfortunately it seems that it will not work with Sonar version 4.

Nor any later version of Sonar... :( Pity, because I used it with Home Studio and it's very, very good.

Actually, I'm in the "Don't Include" camp. Why should we be paying an extra $20 on EVERY upgrade of SONAR just to get the same encoder when you have the opportunity to pay for it once and be done with it. The demo encoder doesn't overwrite the one you bought in whatever version we got it with. But once you figure out LAME, it works really well and isn't so difficult to add. You just have to find the right thread.

I agree. MP3 export should be automatically included in Sonar. This is 2009, not the 90's.

how does this "old topic" get so many responses, and my OMF question gets none?

you guys wouldn't say mean and arrogant things if you were actually talking to each other face to face

also, if it's such an old topic, why don't you move on to another thread? The title of the thread made it pretty clear what the subject was

Some people are sticklers for netiquette, and looking up frequently asked questions is part of that. Personally I have no problems with it, you should see how often the justification question comes up on the P5 forum.

In reply to BeachBum, other than its 2009, give me a good reason why I should pay about $100 for all the versions of my software to include mp3 as standard. Ill give a few examples of Sonars competition

Protools -- purchased upgrade
http://archive.digidesign.com/download/mp3/ ($20)

Logic 8 - purchased upgrade (as far as I can tell with a quick look on the web)

Cubase Studio 4 -purchased upgrade
Cubase Essentials 4 - purchased upgrade
Cubase 4 - included, but has a price much higher than Sonar Producer (and certainly doesnt have a plugin package with it that even compares)

So Im quite curious as to why a professional program "needs" to have mp3 to be up to date, it seems very few of the competitors are.

I know a few consumer grade programs do come with mp3 export as standard but as I said these are "consumer" programs, and not professional applications, even then only about half give mp3 export.

Im also curious as well why someone actually "needs" mp3, so if someone could answer that as well.

EDIT- also as to why your OMF question recieved few replies, is that there are only a minority of users that would use OMF, those that do are less likely to be using the forums and more likely to be working.

you guys wouldn't say mean and arrogant things if you were actually talking to each other face to face

Want my adress??

how does this "old topic" get so many responses, and my OMF question gets none?

Cause it took one answer to answer it. Right......Its also a boring topic that only needs one reply as long as its the right reply. what else do you want to know about OMF/ it was answered..

In reply to BeachBum, other than its 2009, give me a good reason why I should pay about $100 for all the versions of my software to include mp3 as standard. Ill give a few examples of Sonars competition

I dont knwo why people cant understand this. They dont knwo what they dont know
Cj

Another case of a new Cakewalk customer, getting his head torn off, due to the simple fact that he either did not know to do a search, or flat out did not want to do a search.

Oh, and I personally think it sucks that I have to pay 19.00 for a MP3 Converter also !

While I will admit, there are many helpful people here, there are also people here that should either not respond to posts, or seek anger management ! (you know who you are)

Sometimes the arrogance is ths forum greatly outweighs the helpfullness.

OK, those of you who think I was referring to you, start the mortor attack !

Bring it on boys.................................................. !

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ORIGINAL: Litewave

Another case of a new Cakewalk customer, getting his head torn off, due to the simple fact that he either did not know to do a search, or flat out did not want to do a search.

Oh, and I personally think it sucks that I have to pay 19.00 for a MP3 Converter also !

While I will admit, there are many helpful people here, there are also people here that should either not respond to posts, or seek anger management ! (you know who you are)

Sometimes the arrogance is ths forum greatly outweighs the helpfullness.

OK, those of you who think I was referring to you, start the mortor attack !

Bring it on boys.................................................. !

INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMING !

I've gotta agree with this completely, Lite. I've been a Cake user for many years and because I no longer have the code or the disc to some version that entitles me to have the encoder for free, I have to purchase another. To me, it's principal...period. I think ANY continued user of Sonar after 2 freaking versions should be entitled to an mp3 encoder that is built into it. I'll even go as far to say buying 3 versions if that helps any. I had a friend of mine just purchase Sonar 8. He's never had Sonar in his life. He was extremely angry there wasn't an encoder in his nearly $500.00 version of S8 or whatever he paid for the full version. I too feel a bit ripped off that I use another application to do my mp3 encoding. To be honest, I've been with Cake since version 3 on floppy disks....they've made enough money off me to where an additional $20 for an encoder insults my intelligence, seriously. And, I cannot blame one newbie for coming on here and feeling the same. Beat to death topic or not, it sucks. Charge the $20 more for the thing if need be. They make us go through all this additional BS with upgrades and codes to older version to get the upgrade price, surely they can tell we already paid for an encoer so we don't have to pay again in future versions, correct?

And I also agree with some of the responses. But I can't blame the posters for being nasty, I blame the moderators for allowing them to make this board look bad at times. I don't like censored posts, but there are some things that need to be dealt with. Sometimes people don't have time to search through things....sometimes people aren't pc savvy. They see a forum, they ask a question and if they aren't upto the standards or certain people, they get annihilated. This is not a good representation of what this community is about, and it doesn't say much for the moderators or the company in which this site is for. Sorry but that's how I feel. If someone tells me to stop whining when I have what I feel is a legit complaint, I'm gonna go off the hook and I don't care if I get banned. In this case, just because some licensing fee is the culprit doesn't mean it still doesn't suck, ya know? This is the kind of thing that makes people steal. Ever see the cracked cake encoder in torrents? I have too and if I used cracks on my box, after spending $400 plus on a progie, you better believe I'd nab it. I've learned something as a very successful businessman with a world-wide client base other than my music endeavors....you eat anything under $50.00 when you need to. It is not worth losing a customer or a group of customers for anything less than $50.00...trust me when I tell you. If this is the case, you are charging too little for your services. :)