Nevermind, it's not worth it.

But as it has been clearly stated you would end up paying for it over and over if they included it and you buy new versions of sonar. It would never be "free" since they have to pay the royalty per disk. People would be more outraged when they found out that the cost was increased by something they may already have purchased. Cake can't win either way IMO.

So I vote for not including it since I already have a truly "free" one that works flawlessly.

ORIGINAL: Mixotonic

But as it has been clearly stated you would end up paying for it over and over if they included it and you buy new versions of sonar. It would never be "free" since they have to pay the royalty per disk. People would be more outraged when they found out that the cost was increased by something they may already have purchased. Cake can't win either way IMO.

So I vote for not including it since I already have a truly "free" one that works flawlessly.

So do you think you are not paying for the Pantheon reverb ever version? Maybe they should make that, and every other plugin that go from version to version available as a $20 addon.

See Cakewalk can't win either way! So I still vote for the cheaper solution.

ORIGINAL: xohol

apparently it came with Pro Audio 9.... ive always just entered that serial (which i still have around) and have never had to pay for the mp3 encoder.

+1 : )

Logic 8 - purchased upgrade (as far as I can tell with a quick look on the web)

Logic Pro 8 will export to mp3. It's an integrated feature, not a separate purchase.
Don't know about Express.

I never really use it, since I'm not a big fan of mp3 anyway, though.

- zevo

I like Sonar. But I too do not like to have to take the time to setup mp3 functionality in Sonar each time I setup a workstation. Just a small annoyance really. MP3s are just as relevant to our work as the *.wav extension. Regardless, I go about the steps to make it work in Sonar. But I have to say that one of my apps (Soundforge) that has this already for me to use from day 1, causes me to think more of them for that. I like having the normal tools I need ready to go.

One more thing. Some of us have been making music for years. I could give a rat's behind whether a poster is new to a software forum or has a million posts. I respect them all equally.

ORIGINAL: FastBikerBoy

LOL....... I never had a c64. My first comp was an Amiga 500 which in true FBB fashion I had to pull to pieces to see how it worked. Then got an A1200 and even put a HD in it. 2.5" 20MB - hi-tech or what?

Dabbled in C for a while (for fun !! ) and then I was devastated when the Amiga technology got buried in the big Windoze conspiracy and been stuck with an inefficient OS ever since, although XP was a big improvement, shame it took MS so long to get to where Commodore were before squandering it. I even fired the old Amiga up a few years ago and it still amazed me how swift it was given the spec 20MB Hard drive 68030 chip and a whopping 16MB of memory.

*Eyes mist up recalling fond memories*.......

Ahhh yes, a fellow Amiga user.

Especially one that understands the the Windows conspiracy. While people were using their ms dos machines, we were using mice and GUI.

I did video and animation for 10 years with the Amiga 2000 and 4000. Video Toaster 4000. Window multimedia still has yet to catch up with Amiga Technology and the Operating system (workbench) never crashed !!!!!!

My first machine, amiga 2000, 1mb memory, no hd, added 16 meg accelerator and 105 mb hard disk (1600.00 usd) 68030 motorola.

Man, this brings a tear to my eye.

LONG LIVE THE MEMORIES OF THE AMIGA.

Window multimedia still has yet to catch up with Amiga Technology and the Operating system (workbench) never crashed !!!!!!

Yep when you think how old that technology is now, where would it be had it been developed at the same rate as Windows? The whole OS setup was fantastic, none of this GBs of rubbish that you have to install with Windoze. The secret to a lot of that was many of the librarys were in ROM nowadays in windoze there's a million and one dlls to be installed with every program. I fancy a lot of re-inventing the wheel goes on there.

What happenend to the Amiga technology? Last I heard Gateway had bought it, I kept hoping someone would see the light and we'd end up with fast, stable computers that ran in 24 mb of RAM and where a 1 GB hard drive would be enough to install the OS several times over, but I guess it's like a lot of things, best isn't always most successful unfortunately.

ORIGINAL: Danny Danzi

ORIGINAL: Litewave

Another case of a new Cakewalk customer, getting his head torn off, due to the simple fact that he either did not know to do a search, or flat out did not want to do a search.

Oh, and I personally think it sucks that I have to pay 19.00 for a MP3 Converter also !

While I will admit, there are many helpful people here, there are also people here that should either not respond to posts, or seek anger management ! (you know who you are)

Sometimes the arrogance is ths forum greatly outweighs the helpfullness.

OK, those of you who think I was referring to you, start the mortor attack !

Bring it on boys.................................................. !

INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMING !

I've gotta agree with this completely, Lite. I've been a Cake user for many years and because I no longer have the code or the disc to some version that entitles me to have the encoder for free, I have to purchase another. To me, it's principal...period. I think ANY continued user of Sonar after 2 freaking versions should be entitled to an mp3 encoder that is built into it. I'll even go as far to say buying 3 versions if that helps any. I had a friend of mine just purchase Sonar 8. He's never had Sonar in his life. He was extremely angry there wasn't an encoder in his nearly $500.00 version of S8 or whatever he paid for the full version. I too feel a bit ripped off that I use another application to do my mp3 encoding. To be honest, I've been with Cake since version 3 on floppy disks....they've made enough money off me to where an additional $20 for an encoder insults my intelligence, seriously. And, I cannot blame one newbie for coming on here and feeling the same. Beat to death topic or not, it sucks. Charge the $20 more for the thing if need be. They make us go through all this additional BS with upgrades and codes to older version to get the upgrade price, surely they can tell we already paid for an encoer so we don't have to pay again in future versions, correct?

And I also agree with some of the responses. But I can't blame the posters for being nasty, I blame the moderators for allowing them to make this board look bad at times. I don't like censored posts, but there are some things that need to be dealt with. Sometimes people don't have time to search through things....sometimes people aren't pc savvy. They see a forum, they ask a question and if they aren't upto the standards or certain people, they get annihilated. This is not a good representation of what this community is about, and it doesn't say much for the moderators or the company in which this site is for. Sorry but that's how I feel. If someone tells me to stop whining when I have what I feel is a legit complaint, I'm gonna go off the hook and I don't care if I get banned. In this case, just because some licensing fee is the culprit doesn't mean it still doesn't suck, ya know? This is the kind of thing that makes people steal. Ever see the cracked cake encoder in torrents? I have too and if I used cracks on my box, after spending $400 plus on a progie, you better believe I'd nab it. I've learned something as a very successful businessman with a world-wide client base other than my music endeavors....you eat anything under $50.00 when you need to. It is not worth losing a customer or a group of customers for anything less than $50.00...trust me when I tell you. If this is the case, you are charging too little for your services. :)

Nice post !

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 !