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2017/11/22 20:03:20
Cactus Music
Only Gibson I ever owned was a EBO bass. It was the most boring bass I ever owned. I even tried updating the PU's and bridge etc , it was just plain boring.
I had a music store and Via Yorkville Sound had access to the Gibson line up. I brought in a LP and and SG, Had to send the LP back as it had a warped neck. The SG was OK but compaired to everything else I sold was totaly not worth the price. It would not stay in tune , sold it a a very min profit so never oreded any more. I sold many Yamaha's, Samicks and Ibanez's. I also sold Godins and a small company called Fury. I had access to all of Fenders amps and gear but they wouldn't allow me to sell the guitars unless I took the full product line so that was a no deal. Would have been stuck with there terrible acoustics. I sold over 100 Seaguls as well as Yamaha and Ibanez acoustics. 
2017/11/22 21:34:55
xray2
I have a small collection of Les Pauls and SG's, which aren't going anywhere. Wasn't planning on buying any new guitar in the immediate future but Gibson may have just lost any future buys from me.
2017/11/22 22:13:03
outland144k
Brian Walton
outland144k
Brian Walton
I own vintage Gibsons...but Gibson doesn't even make the best Les Pauls, 335 Style guitars, Or Dual Cut "SG" either etc.  
 
Outland, you are aware that the most famous "les paul" Slash used wasn't even a Gibson, right?  
 



No, Brian, I hadn't a clue. I did know that he enjoyed Les Pauls, but no idea of anything else. I'm not even a Guns and Roses fan; I'm too much of a jazz-head I fear. I'm much more into Pat Metheny, John Scofield, and Allan Holdsworth than Slash.
 
I did like the picture. 
 
It should probably be mentioned in my own defence, however, that I was referring to the entire output of the Gibson company (and particularly the vintage years' models), not what they "are" producing at the moment.


I'm more interested in jazz too generally speaking but I also know a lot about guitars.
 
Slash used a non-gibson les paul to record the stuff that made them house hold names.  Of course when they became all over MTV and real les pauls started to sell like hot cakes because of him in particular, Gibson of course got "involved" in his career.
 
Interesting you listed a bunch of players that don't play Gibsons as the primary instruments either.  Though Pat has some really cool ones in the collection.  
 
I agree that selling ones Gibson isn't going to hurt Gibson.  But I'd also say if you play Gibson's nothing is holding you back from switching if you have the money.  The grass absolutely can be greener.  




Here's an odd story: back around the late nineties, my synth tech passed on. He was a rather eccentric gentleman who died as a result of a freak accident in what amounted to a room that was a huge virtual microwave oven. A few years later, his wife called me and told me she had something that was her late husband's to give me, kind of on potentially permanent loan. I made arrangements to pick-up whatever it was and went to her house. She handed an immaculate Gibson L5 with gold hardware from the early 1960's. She gave it to me because she said she knew I'd play it. It turns out that Darryl (her late husband) was an astounding jazz guitarist who simply was too shy to let anyone know he played. A few people, however, did find out and occasionally went to visit him and jam when they could. Some of these guys were Pat Metheny, Joe Pass, and Jim Hall. I was stunned. I accepted the guitar, but I couldn't bring myself to play it; it as simply too beautiful and I was afraid that I might damage it. She finally called and asked for it back as one of Daryl's friends asked to borrow it for a recording session (she never told me who). I was actually relieved. I estimated the guitar's worth at over ten grand from a little research I did, but again, I'm not a guitarist.
 
And in all the years I knew him, Darryl never once mentioned that he played.  
 
I hear you, Brian on "grass is always greener" comment. My only point is that one should not sell an instrument out of anger, per se.   
2017/11/22 23:36:09
Anderton
Granted I don't have access to any inner workings any more, but I don't think Gibson would have kept on a transition team - especially with Noel and Keith in there - if there wasn't some effort afoot to tie up loose ends, like making sure customers had authorization-free versions.
 
It's very easy to be upset with the way this has been handled so far. But to be fair, Gibson probably managed to keep Cakewalk alive for a few more years than it could have otherwise.
2017/11/23 01:03:04
chuckebaby
I think it could have been worse. We could have tried logging in one day and been like "WTF is going on here".
Keeping Noel and Keith here speaks volumes about how Gibson wants to leave save face on their Cakewalk Experiment. Im not happy about it in any way, shape or form. But we do still have a forum here and we are waiting word for an authorization system (hopefully) in place very soon. So I credit Gibson for that and im grateful.
 
As for the guitars themselves...
I think Gibson's quality slipped a little bit in the past few years. Along with trending movements. Such as: There are no more Guitar hero's anymore to sell guitars at the volume they were once sold. Never thought I would see this day coming, ever. Electric guitar was the choice tool for Rock n roll. But as The Who said "Rock is dead".
 
This whole experience has made me feel like an old washed up has been who's music is no longer appreciated (Sorry gents for inviting you to my pity party) but it has made me realize a few things. Things I realized a few years ago, like im never going to make it famous, I write and record my music for me only as way to enjoy my time.
 
Even my kids listen to my music like I used to listen to my fathers music and say "This sounds old".
I need a drink
2017/11/23 01:08:50
SteveStrummerUK
chuckebaby
 
Even my kids listen to my music like I used to listen to my fathers music and say "This sounds old".
I need a drink




You're doing it wrong somewhere Chuck - my daughter loves The Clash 
2017/11/23 01:09:16
chuckebaby
A bigger caution of sorts -
 
Other DAW makers knowing there are a slew of potential vulnerable users running around looking for a new DAW.
Circling this place like sharks using fake accounts saying how good DAW X is.
That's what concerns me. Getting an honest opinion. We have all been here long enough though.
We know who to trust and who is Joe Schmo from Idaho.  
2017/11/23 10:15:27
soens
Well... I was gonna sell my LP this month but now I'm gonna wait. If they do fold this, or early next, year, LPs will gradually climb in value. Who knows, I may triple my investment. Or even better, it may put me into early retirement.
2017/11/23 18:02:41
mettelus
Brian Walton
 
Outland, you are aware that the most famous "les paul" Slash used wasn't even a Gibson, right?  


 
I assumed the picture you posted had been pulled from this article about those guitars. Gibson made a replica in 2010, the "“original,” as Slash calls it in the videos, was made by California luthier Kris Derrig."
 
 
2017/11/24 16:37:06
outland144k
mettelus
Brian Walton
 
Outland, you are aware that the most famous "les paul" Slash used wasn't even a Gibson, right?  


 
I assumed the picture you posted had been pulled from this article about those guitars. Gibson made a replica in 2010, the "“original,” as Slash calls it in the videos, was made by California luthier Kris Derrig."
 
 




I just pulled the picture from an image search; I've no idea what the original article was.
 
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