OK so, this freaks me out for no reason.  For as long as I've used SONAR I've always had "bounce to clips" set to ctrl+B, I don't know how much people use this but I use it constantly for MIDI, I think of it as "comBine" clips because that's what it does.
 
With an audio clip, fine, if you bounce a muted clip the clip is still there but with zero volume.  But with MIDI, if you bounce a muted clip the clip disappears!  Where does it go?  I mean it's not like you technically deleted it.  I picture it floating in some kind of purgatory...  it hasn't been trashed but it's not in this world either, it's stuck in the in-between unless by some fortuitous chance it gets "undone"...!
 
If I ever accidentally "combine" a clip and banish it into floating in the netherworld of my hard drive I always hit "undo" and then delete it properly.  I feel like clips need a proper funeral.  I don't want ghosts in my system.
 
Seriously, do muted and bounced clips still linger around and is there a way to see these ghosts or are they as good as gone?  And who really lives to tell about it anyway??

I think it goes into the bit bucket. I don't think you want to Bounce to Clips with a muted clip. 

From reading the Help menu, I get the impression that the muted clip is overwritten and is gone unless you do an undo. 

I think Dave's right. The bounced MIDI clip replaces the original clips, and the change becomes permanent as soon as you save and close the project. 

This does seem out of character for SONAR, where nondestructive edits are the order of the day. But since MIDI clips are so easy to re-split (no printed effects to worry about like with audio clips), it's no big deal. Trashing the old clips also keeps your project file from getting too big.

I bounce midi with muted tracks all the time... nothing happens to the muted midi track. I select the tracks I want to bounce, mute the rest, bounce to clips then bounce to trac. I might bounce all the strings to one track then the brass to another and so on. It's kind of like mixing down for me. You sure your bouncing them to to a new track?
John

Probably just semantics.  What I mean is this: select any MIDI clip, then Edit --> Clip Mute, then Edit --> Bounce to Clip(s).  The clip disappears!

This is 90% a joke questions, but there is 10% of me that is actually curious.  I guess it's the same as selecting the clip and just deleting it but instead I tend to think of the poor clip either stuck in purgatory somewhere or floating around my computer like a ghost.  Do you think I spend too much time working in SONAR??

Matt


Probably just semantics.  What I mean is this: select any MIDI clip, then Edit --> Clip Mute, then Edit --> Bounce to Clip(s).  The clip disappears!

This is 90% a joke questions, but there is 10% of me that is actually curious.  I guess it's the same as selecting the clip and just deleting it but instead I tend to think of the poor clip either stuck in purgatory somewhere or floating around my computer like a ghost.  Do you think I spend too much time working in SONAR??

ooooooooooooo.... and yes! lol

John

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I bounce midi with muted tracks all the time... nothing happens to the muted midi track. I select the tracks I want to bounce, mute the rest, bounce to clips then bounce to trac. I might bounce all the strings to one track then the brass to another and so on. It's kind of like mixing down for me. You sure your bouncing them to to a new track?
John

He's bouncing clips not tracks. Its a different process.