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  • Michael (Spacey) and Warren (evadianepug) cover TAXMAN (p.2)
2014/09/05 12:21:34
Guitarhacker
Nice job on the cover.
 
I picked up a copy of the Beatles remastered box set with all their stuff..... I can listen to it when I'm listening on speakers that are close together. That radical panning is horrible IMHO.... I heard that someone in the studio doing the remastering mistakenly sent it out like that to the replicator and it wasn't supposed to be that way.
 
Your version sounded good as I was listening to speakers set 12" apart.
 
Love the Beatles...
2014/09/05 12:29:00
markno999
Nice job guys.  You did a good job capturing the Taxman era in mixing and performance.
 
Regards
 
2014/09/05 12:36:10
batsbrew
excellent!
 
mixed like the original stereo, eh?
 
my only gripe is the cymbals, that are a bit too brash, loud, or both...
but man, you guys nailed this.
 
2014/09/05 13:02:53
jamesg1213
Good faithful cover guys, nicely done.
2014/09/05 14:05:55
spacey
Since I don't hang here I appreciate the feedback though I feel I should say the only
reason I did this is because I was asked. I was in the middle of a guitar build but as Warren said, I enjoy doing
Beatles tune with him and did explain when I got the way he liked it I was done. I was sure if he posted it there would be plenty of great suggestions for improvement but I was not going to be spending time with it.
 
Unlike and like Bat...I have a lot of complaints lol.
 
Paul did all the guitar work, George was pissed I guess- about taxes and asked for help. Well I didn't take the time to work out his "feel"/ accents on the first little bit of the lead. It's the same notes just not the right feel.
All the parts were done in "one takes" so I wasn't going to go back and patch the goofs. One may notice there is a bass note note missing a one beat...stands out like wart. Oh well.
 
I complained to myself that I didn't own many more different types of guitars. I think the guitar parts suck.
I complained about using Guitar Rig 5....haven't recorded in some time now and all of the software guitar stuff I tried all sucked. I wish Fractal Audio Systems had bought Cakewalk and they did something like Pro-tools did with the Eleven rack. It caused me to wonder what percentage of Cake's customer base are guitarist...it seems it would be a very big percent and if that's true...I don't have good things to say about Cake or Gibson. But, since I don't record much I quickly got over it.
 
Paul did some very cool stuff on this tune. He doubled the bass part and on the original recording one can hear it pan to center when vocals are resting and pan hard left when the vocals are there. I think the double part is tracing chords but I couldn't figure out what the heck he did. I'll ask him when I see him.
Not to mention he did one of the best leads I think they ever did. JMO though.
 
I did (try to) pan everything as they did.
I also worked out the time/meter for every measure. If one cares to they can load their track and our track in a project - line them up and it will match beat for beat and the meter is all over the place.
 
I would like to say that Warren listened to a LOT of crap from me and was a perfect gentleman. He gave me a reason to record and I appreciate it and wished I would have been healthier and more focused...but that's life.
 
 
 
2014/09/05 14:48:49
stevec
Yeah, the panning is a bit weird in 2014, but hey, it is what it is (or was).   Everything does sound fairly authentic, and I particularly liked the vocal harmonies and guitar solos.  
 
2014/09/05 18:37:20
Lynn
I've always loved this song, and I think you guys captured the vibe quite well.  I love it when someone takes the "risk" of doing a Beatles cover.  Keep up the good work, gentlemen.
2014/09/06 09:02:03
thepogue
Ha!!...I miss you guys.....wow....loved this tune. And I agree with Bat...love the original mix!....man you guys killed the vox!! no kiddin...bvox was dead on.
 
fun stuff...hope you guys are well....love the fade out as well!
2014/09/06 11:56:33
Rimshot
Excellent job.  I love the background info you gave us Spacey.  All was very well done.  
2014/09/06 13:17:02
spacey
Rimshot
Excellent job.  I love the background info you gave us Spacey.  All was very well done.  





Thanks Jimmy.
I hope I was clear that even though it's not a work in progress that I still enjoy and appreciate
hearing what others think about all aspects. Very cool to have others ideas for consideration.
 
I went to the trouble of matching the meter because I felt that many projects I've done that sounded so
mechanical was due to the lack of "human". I can't say for sure that it helped but maybe once I do a project that
includes focus on volume and accent programming with humanized rhythm I'll be able to tell.
Not that I think it will ever replace the "magic" that happens when live musicians play together but may help
lesson the "mechanical" sound I hear.
 
So...I wonder if in the future tracks may offer the ability to be in different time signatures and meters?...seems that if musicians were doing the programming that many of the important aspects of making it would already be part of it all. Surely the push and pull...the drive the poly rhythms aren't such an unknown.
 
I just can't imagine playing in a band and each member having perfect timing and from start to finish of a tune.
I know if I wound up in one I'd have serious dependency issues and problem turning gig money into bail bonds.
And to have them all screw up the meter together and exactly the same.?..who programs this stuff to be so perfect and not give us a way to screw it up? If people aren't screwing something up then it just can't be real...so how can it sound real? Maybe I should just limit my concerns to tones, volumes and panning.
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