• SONAR
  • Please Remove the Challende/Response Activation (for users who pay upfront) (p.6)
2015/01/18 12:25:13
Anderton
Ric4001
But access to the activation servers is a legitimate concern.

 
That's the direction all software is going. 
 
Does anyone remember Opcode Vision?  It was one of the most popular midi sequencers in the early days of sequencers.  It also required a challenge-response type of activation to install.  Gibson bought Opcode and shut down the Opcode Vision development.

 
I do research. I researched what happened with Opcode thoroughly before joining Gibson and talked with both Chris Halaby (Opcode's president) and Henry to get their sides of the story. They matched up perfectly. Chris emphasized he had no ill will toward Henry, and wished me success with Gibson.
 
Short form: Opcode was failing at the time of the acquisition. Most of the key developers had already left to go to Apple or another company. Gibson hoped to be able to resurrect the company, but around that time, Apple was about to introduce OS X and the people who could have made the transition were no longer at Opcode. The Windows version never got traction. At that time Gibson did not have the resources to create an entire software development team from scratch. Both Chris and Henry described the setup as one that was "doomed to fail."
 
If you've been following Cakewalk's progress since 2013, the scenario has played out very differently this time. As to all the people who said Cakewalk wouldn't last a year after being acquired by Gibson, Cakewalk is still here and doing much better than it was prior to the acquisition.
 
(And just FYI, over 80% of all acquisitions fail. I'm glad Cakewalk is in the 20% category.)
2015/01/18 12:31:19
FastBikerBoy
John T
So if I'm reading this right, in order to activate the new Sonar, I need undertake a dangerous journey to Rivendell, put together a band of people who are supposed to protect me, then have one of them try to kill me, then literally walk to another country, one full of creatures who want to kill me, with my only protection the stupidest person from the former group, pick up a horrible little goblin who wants to kill me, literally walk up a volcano, and throw the only thing I own worth a penny into the lava, and then walk back. And I need to do this for every machine I install on.
 
Cakewalk are dead to me.




Lol.....you'd think so from some of the absurd paranoia floating around. 
2015/01/18 12:32:10
bapu
FastBikerBoy
John T
So if I'm reading this right, in order to activate the new Sonar, I need undertake a dangerous journey to Rivendell, put together a band of people who are supposed to protect me, then have one of them try to kill me, then literally walk to another country, one full of creatures who want to kill me, with my only protection the stupidest person from the former group, pick up a horrible little goblin who wants to kill me, literally walk up a volcano, and throw the only thing I own worth a penny into the lava, and then walk back. And I need to do this for every machine I install on.
 
Cakewalk are dead to me.




Lol.....you'd think so from some of the absurd paranoia floating around. 


What, John T was having a go at us?
2015/01/18 12:34:01
Anderton
John T
So if I'm reading this right, in order to activate the new Sonar, I need undertake a dangerous journey to Rivendell, put together a band of people who are supposed to protect me, then have one of them try to kill me, then literally walk to another country, one full of creatures who want to kill me, with my only protection the stupidest person from the former group, pick up a horrible little goblin who wants to kill me, literally walk up a volcano, and throw the only thing I own worth a penny into the lava, and then walk back. And I need to do this for every machine I install on.
 
Cakewalk are dead to me.




Crap...you got ahold of the secret Cakewalk memo, "What can we possibly do to reverse our current success, alienate our customer base, take all their money, then shut the business down after a year and all retire in Hawaii?" I guess it's all over now. I have no choice but to switch to Cubeapertools.
2015/01/18 12:35:49
FastBikerBoy
bapu
FastBikerBoy
John T
So if I'm reading this right, in order to activate the new Sonar, I need undertake a dangerous journey to Rivendell, put together a band of people who are supposed to protect me, then have one of them try to kill me, then literally walk to another country, one full of creatures who want to kill me, with my only protection the stupidest person from the former group, pick up a horrible little goblin who wants to kill me, literally walk up a volcano, and throw the only thing I own worth a penny into the lava, and then walk back. And I need to do this for every machine I install on.
 
Cakewalk are dead to me.




Lol.....you'd think so from some of the absurd paranoia floating around. 


What, John T was having a go at us?




No he was going through the install procedure, per machine...
2015/01/18 12:36:21
Anderton
I just realized...why am I spending time explaining things for the 1000th time? Anyone who's  read what Cakewalk has said, read the membership FAQ, and read the answers from Cakewalk representatives to questions that have a basis in reality knows what's going on...so I don't need to explain things to them. And if people don't read, they're not going to read what I write. So I think it's time to jump off the forum and enjoy Platinum for a while.
 
2015/01/18 12:39:32
FastBikerBoy
Yeah. Have fun, you have more patience than me. I've ignored a lot of the threads as they are just plain out of hand. I don't know how simpler it could be than reading the announcement followed by the FAQs.
2015/01/18 12:40:42
John T
Well, it's challenge / response for now. How do we know that 11 months in to the membership, it won't become blood sacrifice?
2015/01/18 12:41:50
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
cityrat
Keith Albright [Cakewalk]
As Noel said, the .crq request file generated is per machine.  But once you receive the .dat file you can archive that for the machine and reinstall at any point and reimport that file.  You own it.  
Just like any other product key, it's good to back that up.  We thought a lot about your experience so changing the pc's hardware shouldn't invalidate your setup.



That's extremely helpful info - does the dat file work if you change hardware on the computer?  For instance if a hard-drive dies etc?




Yes it does, its not hardware dependent. 
2015/01/18 12:43:06
John T
I remember when FlapSoft bought out FlipCode. You weren't there, man. The horror.
 
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