• SONAR
  • The world has not ended (p.2)
2017/11/24 01:26:27
stratman70
Right back at ya John and I remember.................................Thanks as Always......
2017/11/24 01:39:30
John
chuckebaby
Hi John,
 
you know how I feel about you.
your A+ in my book and always have been. Im not sure I respect anyone else more on this forum than you.
You were one of the first to greet me here when I joined and you'll probably be the last to log off :-)
 
Im with you. Im going to continue to use Sonar until the doors fall off.
Though I am considering it, I'm not sure I have a use to buy another DAW right now.
Unless technology advances to the point Sonar can not/will not do something for me, I will use it for my projects.
 
I have come to accustomed to Region FX using Melodyne.
It saves resources in a way no other DAW can. Drum replacer and Vocal synch as well.


I am with you Chuck. I really appreciate your friendship. 
 
I have been a long time user of nearly all DAWs. Or have at least tried them all. With the Apple Logic situation from years back I learned to adjust to being cut off. Heck I still had Cakewalk and relied on it  a lot back then. Yet I wanted what Logic had so I bought Cubase SX1. I kept with it until Cubase came to Cubase 4. I didn't upgrade.  Now I am looking forward to Cubase 9.5. I already have Mixbus and Studio One 3 as well as Samplitude. I'm not worried about the future. 
 
 I have been here before and can perhaps help with the transition. I'm also sure many others have a great deal of knowledge about how to make the leap. As long as you have the audio and or the MIDI you will be OK. 
 
CW has been my home for a very long time but I am old enough to know nothing is guaranteed to last forever. 
 
Stay strong.  
2017/11/24 01:58:42
rmfegley
As I've said in a couple of other posts, I would greatly prefer to stay with Sonar as long as possible, but as of today there is uncertainty about issues of continuing authorization, and for those of us who've been paying monthly, what exact version we'll end up with a license for (I'd hate to lose recent PRV improvements because I'm three payments short of another full year). And of course as recent events with Rapture and CA-2A showed, Windows updates could break features unexpectedly. For those reasons I believe I should be exploring other options. I'm sure there are many tools available that will get the job done for me.

But it's pretty disheartening to think of when I realize how many hours I've spent becoming fluent with Sonar. Heidegger said something along the lines of a competent carpenter isn't even aware his hammer exists until he has a problem with it, only then does it become an actual object to be contended with. I'd finally been approaching that with Sonar, where I could do most of my work without having to think about the tools at all. Today I was trying out the Studio One demo, and I have no doubt that it is quite capable software, but here I am fumbling around trying to figure out how to set the metronome count-in. Yeesh. Not where I was wanting to be again.

(FWIW, the metronome was pretty trivial, and knowing how to use DAW software in general will be a big leg up in learning something new, but I'm sure some hurdles will not be so simple).
2017/11/24 02:03:09
mk31762
Everyone keeps saying we can continue the use Sonar as is. If so, then why am I suddenly in demo mode? Where do I go for support to fix this problem? No, the world hasn't ended, but I suddenly feel like my ability to produce music has been shut off. It's like Mazda suddenly when out of business and took my car keys with them.
2017/11/24 02:28:58
chuckebaby
mk31762
Everyone keeps saying we can continue the use Sonar as is. If so, then why am I suddenly in demo mode? Where do I go for support to fix this problem? No, the world hasn't ended, but I suddenly feel like my ability to produce music has been shut off. It's like Mazda suddenly when out of business and took my car keys with them.


You have until Dec 13 before Demo mode kicks in correct ?
Don't worry about it. I know that's easier said than done but Cakewalk knows users will go in to demo mode on Dec 13 its the monthly cycle. Just try and stay calm and hang in there.
 
I have a feeling Cakewalk will announce something next week. This week is holidays and a lot is going on for them too. I heard from a rep source: They will have an authorization key that will unlock Sonar for ever (even transferring to another PC).
2017/11/24 02:35:34
John
Very useful information Chuck. Very timely too. 
2017/11/24 02:44:09
John
rmfegley
As I've said in a couple of other posts, I would greatly prefer to stay with Sonar as long as possible, but as of today there is uncertainty about issues of continuing authorization, and for those of us who've been paying monthly, what exact version we'll end up with a license for (I'd hate to lose recent PRV improvements because I'm three payments short of another full year). And of course as recent events with Rapture and CA-2A showed, Windows updates could break features unexpectedly. For those reasons I believe I should be exploring other options. I'm sure there are many tools available that will get the job done for me.

But it's pretty disheartening to think of when I realize how many hours I've spent becoming fluent with Sonar. Heidegger said something along the lines of a competent carpenter isn't even aware his hammer exists until he has a problem with it, only then does it become an actual object to be contended with. I'd finally been approaching that with Sonar, where I could do most of my work without having to think about the tools at all. Today I was trying out the Studio One demo, and I have no doubt that it is quite capable software, but here I am fumbling around trying to figure out how to set the metronome count-in. Yeesh. Not where I was wanting to be again.

(FWIW, the metronome was pretty trivial, and knowing how to use DAW software in general will be a big leg up in learning something new, but I'm sure some hurdles will not be so simple).


I will be around and so will others to help in any transition you make. This community is still alive and well. Things are not as bleak as they may seem. We have already heard from Personus and Steinberg. Both are going to help too. 
2017/11/24 02:57:44
gswitz
Chuck and John... Peace. Gonna miss hanging out around here.

You guys are awesome.

Geoff
2017/11/24 03:03:53
Cactus Music
Just ordered a 240GB EVO SSD. Will rebuild my DAW and use W7 so I can safely go on line without worrying about W10 updates trashing Sonar and my 3rd party installers. 
I will take the old 120GB drive and put in a Drive encloser I just ordered. 
My CCC is all up to date. 
Time to house clean anyways. 
I'm confident I will not have any more problems once I do this and the system should run for at least 5-6 years.. I'll be 70 years old. By then much will have changed so I'm not going to sweat it. 
What I will miss is this forum. No matter what that will never be the same now. 
2017/11/24 03:07:00
MandolinPicker
You know, this situation is bad for us owners of SONAR, but the folks I feel really bad for are the great folks who lost their jobs just before the Thanksgiving holiday. I'm sure this was not the holiday they imagined. I would also think some are married, maybe have kids, and their outlook for Christmas looks really bleak right now. I pray that these good folks will be back to work soon, and that their life returns to normal. In the long run, this may open new and better opportunities for them, and I sincerely hope and pray that is what happens. But right now, our issues with the software are really small potatoes compared to their issues.
 
You know, I can remember when SONAR was only updated once a year. Everyone waited on the forums, debating what the latest updates would consist of. The way I choose to see it, the October release was like our update for the year. No plans to switch from SONAR any time soon. And with the news from Chuck, things are looking better that we will be able to use SONAR even if we switch machines. For us owners of the software, that is really not a bad deal compared to what the developers and other Cakewalk folks are experiencing right now.
 
Just my 2-cents.....
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