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2013/01/04 08:58:20
xxxsoundxxx
  I know there are many ways of doing this but wanted to ask the experienced midi recorders what is IYO the fastest easiest way to take a piano midi track (using Cake real piano or equiv.) and adjust the volume between the right and left hand. I know I could move each to a separate track or edit the midi data velocities but wonder is there a splitting filter,method or mapping that lets me do this the another way? Is there a way to drag selected notes only to another track (removing them from the first track)or do I have to copy the whole thing and erase what I don't want in each?
2013/01/04 09:04:43
The Maillard Reaction
I would think the fastest way would be to grab the lower notes in the PRV and simply reduce the velocity.



I can think of a many ways to do this and it seems like the ones you have postulated will all work well.

If you want to use an automated split process look at some of the old cal scripts.


You just have to decide what suits your mood.


best regards,
mike
2013/01/04 09:40:24
CJaysMusic
What is IYO the fastest easiest way to take a piano midi track (using Cake real piano or equiv.) and adjust the volume between the right and left hand. 

That's simple. just insert the channel tools FX on the audio track that outputs the MIDI sound and then you can raise or lowert the volume of the left and/or right channel.


If your suing an instrument track, just insert the channel tools on that track. Either way is very fast and simple.


CJ
2013/01/04 10:00:54
The Maillard Reaction
Hi Cjay... 


There are a lot of ways to record a piano... and left hand to the left channel with right hand to the right channel being only one of the ways.

At best, that stereo image might be described as a "player perspective"

Very often the stereo image of a piano recording will be indicative of a stage or room and each channel will present a blend of the entire piano rather than a specific octave range.


best regards,
mike

2013/01/04 11:47:32
konradh
If you can live with changing the velocity, go to Select | Select by Filter.  In the note range, leave the lowest number that is there by default on the left, and put C5 (Middle C) for the highest number on the right—or use B4 or whatever note you want for the highest note in the left hand. This will select all the left-hand notes.

Then you can scale velocity to make the left hand 80% or whatever percent you want.

Note that many piano sample libraries make the lower velocity notes less bright which is correct if you want the effect on playing softer with your left hand.  If you don't want to lose the brightness of the higher velocities, then CJ's method is probably what you want.
2013/01/05 02:30:15
xxxsoundxxx
  How do you use channel tools on a Midi track?
2013/01/05 06:26:38
Bristol_Jonesey
You don't - you insert it in the Fx bin on the associated audio track
2013/01/05 07:57:20
The Maillard Reaction


But I wouldn't bother because it is highly unlikely that your piano samples are voiced as was suggested.



Which means using Channel Tools isn't going to help.



best regards,
mike
2013/01/05 08:52:54
Bristol_Jonesey
You might even want to try something like a multiband compressor and bring up the low end that way, but if it's an exposed piece of piano you'll have to take great care setting it up otherwise it can end up sounding quite unnatural.

In a busy mix where the piano part is somewhat "buried", this will be less of an issue and you'll be able to drive the MBC a little harder and not notice it in operation
2013/01/05 16:22:23
CJaysMusic
what is IYO the fastest easiest way to take a piano midi track (using Cake real piano or equiv.) and adjust the volume between the right and left hand

Hey Mike, i just tried this with the channel tools and i can raise the just the left and right channel and i can lower just the left or right channel.
 
Are you saying i'm the only one with a version of channel tools that can do what the poster is asking in my quotes? It can be done and down very easily, just as i said in my earlier post. it took my 5 seconds and 3 of those seconds was inserting channel tools
 
CJ
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