Ableton can fast bounce LP- it's just known as freeze and flatten.

PTheory


They aren't comparing it to Ableton (that was me having just started dabbling with Ableton) they are just saying that it doesn't do anything extra that all other DAW's can't and in fact the integration and workflow suffers compared to most other DAWS

Can't see how Ableton and Sonar are so different they both do exactly the same job which is to record, sequence and mix audio and midi

I just read the review and it seems to be a good review to me. SOS isn't like some of the other magazines that give positive reviews to everything. They, along with Tape OP are generally pretty honest and can be brutal on occasion.


As for Abelton vs Sonar, it's a matter of workflow. Abelton is great for putting together songs via cut and pasting, inserting and manipulating loops and so forth. It's geared more towards people who are not recording live instruments, not that it can't be done, but it's not the best tool for that.


Sonar is the opposite in fact.


Both of course have a huge overlap, but their workflow makes them compliment rather than replace each other.


That's just my 2 cents having worked with both.

Who cares? The Beatles "Sgt Peppers" was recorded on 4-track tape. Sonar can do a lot more than that. Its not the brush, its the artist wielding it. 

backwoods


Ableton can fast bounce LP- it's just known as freeze and flatten.

That quirky nomenclature is on par with starbucks!!

I think the OP's reading of the review just demonstrates Freud's idea of projection, rather than the gist of the article.

jb101


I think the OP's reading of the review just demonstrates Freud's idea of projection, rather than the gist of the article.

Something, right?  You have to be kidding me...   "SOS' Sonar Review was less than positive?"  On what planet?

Linear Phase

jb101


I think the OP's reading of the review just demonstrates Freud's idea of projection, rather than the gist of the article.

Something, right?  You have to be kidding me...   "SOS' Sonar Review was less than positive?"  On what planet?

Not sure I understand your reply, LP.  Sorry..

I'm not sure the OP understands how to read a review.  The review is positive but doesn't really go very deep - it is short for SOS.  Walden does make some comparisons to Cubase and Logic and finds little to choose between.  I guess the OP uses Ableton and hence the questions of same for comparison.

Some people use the matrix etc for a loop based world but it ain't really the same as dedicated loopers - even P5 was in a different class.  As Cakewalk put it, it makes it easier to organize a song in the matrix if you have designed the song accordingly.  But SONAR (and the earlier main DAWs) are linear recorders that have looping functions added.  FL Studio, Live and P5 to a degree are more like sequencers for repeating audio/midi parts.  It doesn't mean you can't do either task in either tool, but the tools make the right task easier.

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This was the point I was making.  I get the impression that the OP had already made up his mind about Sonar and "projected" his negative feelings onto the review.  I found the review quite positive, personally,  but maybe I'm projecting..
 
I still don't follow LP's response though, please explain.
 
Sorry for being dense.
 
 

It was rhetorical.  "Was the sound on sound review less than positive."  The answer is no, "it was positive."  So I was agreeing, that there was some sort of misunderstanding of said review.   "Only on a planet far away," would that review be considered negative.