• SONAR
  • Underwhelming review in sound on sound magazine (p.3)
2012/12/31 04:49:17
Glyn Barnes
I just read the whole review. I think it was very positive and objective.

Here is the closing remark, which may be the source of the OP's comments, however I think as other have said he projected his own feeling into how he intrepreted the review. (Maybe I have projected mine too?)
 
Does Sonar X2 have some killer features that would make Cubase or Logic users want to jump ship? Of that I’m less convinced, but that’s not to say I don’t think Sonar X2 is a very capable DAW. If you are a PC-based musician looking to buy your first serious DAW package, X2 is most certainly worth exploring. The Producer Edition reviewed here is cheaper than the full version of Cubase 6 and, while I don’t think the package as a whole feels quite as well integrated as Steinberg’s offering (perhaps because some of X2’s components are developed and supplied by other companies?), it is more than capable of making some very serious recordings.  

Of course, there will be few Sonar users tempted to jump ship to Cubase either.


2012/12/31 07:11:50
whack
I agree with daveny5, I dont even see the point in arguing over them, but people like to do it I guess!
2013/01/01 14:45:00
konradh
I downloaded the pdf of the article.  It said many good things about Sonar and called it a top0notch DAW.  It siad V-Vocal was not quite the equal of Melodyne, but we knew that already.  SOS priased the inclusion of the virtual instruments but noted that the documentation is not easy to find.

As others have stated, SOS called X2 a good choice but said it would not likely woo away users who are already comfortabled with another product.  That goes both ways. 

Note that much of the review refers back to the original write-up on X1 which was quite positive.
2013/01/01 16:10:44
Swiller
Sonar is the best "daw" out there now. ( vs Pro tools, cubase, reaper )

But...

I see albeton as more of an audio workhorse instrument ..it pulls you in to the marvels it offers and encourages you to use it as an 8/16 bar loop instrument.  It is bloody sensational at that and will add way more to an electronic musicians sonic arsenal than another hardware synth. But its ability to produce stuff like sonar is just not there on its own.

They are both great products and should not really be compared alongside each other. Live 9 will offer audio to midi conversion, atomics the glue compressor wherever you want it and design your own synth/plugin on top of the existing jaw dropping workflow. There is nothing on the market that will allow you to process audio like albeton can.

I think albeton is as important to dance music production as was the 808,303 and 909. A truly amazing piece of software for electronic dance music. My NI maschine is so sacked after demoing this for a couple of days.
2013/01/01 16:31:55
PTheory

I agree with everything you are saying and the other point to note with Ableton is that it is absolutely rock solid and never crashes in my experience.  Will I still use Sonar to mix in? Yes but the frequent audio drop outs and lack of capability to handle all my plug ins gets frustrating

Swiller


Sonar is the best "daw" out there now. ( vs Pro tools, cubase, reaper )

But...

I see albeton as more of an audio workhorse instrument ..it pulls you in to the marvels it offers and encourages you to use it as an 8/16 bar loop instrument.  It is bloody sensational at that and will add way more to an electronic musicians sonic arsenal than another hardware synth. But its ability to produce stuff like sonar is just not there on its own.

They are both great products and should not really be compared alongside each other. Live 9 will offer audio to midi conversion, atomics the glue compressor wherever you want it and design your own synth/plugin on top of the existing jaw dropping workflow. There is nothing on the market that will allow you to process audio like albeton can.

I think albeton is as important to dance music production as was the 808,303 and 909. A truly amazing piece of software for electronic dance music. My NI maschine is so sacked after demoing this for a couple of days.


2013/01/01 16:34:42
backwoods
PTheory- It has taken them about 3 years to get Ableton 8 to where it is now- it was notorious for crashing and for manifold bugs for years. It's still not as solid as X2 for me personally.

What plugins of yours is Sonar struggling with?
2013/01/01 16:44:25
PTheory

the amount of them in particular waves

backwoods


PTheory- It has taken them about 3 years to get Ableton 8 to where it is now- it was notorious for crashing and for manifold bugs for years. It's still not as solid as X2 for me personally.

What plugins of yours is Sonar struggling with?


2013/01/01 16:47:47
backwoods
If you are alluding to the fact Sonar doesn't offer full support for Waves plugs with VST3 versions, well, Ableton doesn't VST3 either PTheory. It's not even officially 64bit yet... 
2013/01/01 16:51:32
PTheory
No Sonar isn't able to handle the number of plugins I have
2013/01/01 16:51:58
backwoods
Which ones does it struggle with PT?
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