I own both programs but don't use Ableton anymore. There are many problems with Ableton that you will never hear about until you use it- like you can only pull in VSTs from one folder for instance. And the PDC is famously rubbish in that program compared to other DAWs. And it is still 32 bit. And there is no real comping system. And the metering is rubbish. And on and on and on- there are 500 things that are not so great... and I personally wouldn't even call it gapless either- dragging in certain VSTs creates a moments silence as it does in Sonar.

I don't think this matters to Cakewalk one bit. SoS is a British publication, and no one (okay, maybe there's like 8 of you) in Europe uses Sonar anyway, so they're like, "Meh." Nearly all of Cakewalk's customer base is in US/Canada. Now if Keyboard or Computer Music gives X2 a bad review, Cakewalk will definitely listen.

8?

Eight?

Try having a look at the Member List and sort on location

Bristol_Jonesey


8?

Eight?

Try having a look at the Member List and sort on location

Okay, I was being a bit sardonic, but let's face it: In Europe, Sonar just isn't a major DAW program. More people in Europe use freaking *Fruity Loops* than Sonar. Even Cakewalk knows that. In North America, at least they take Sonar more seriously.

elsongs

Bristol_Jonesey


8?

Eight?

Try having a look at the Member List and sort on location

Okay, I was being a bit sardonic, but let's face it: In Europe, Sonar just isn't a major DAW program. More people in Europe use freaking *Fruity Loops* than Sonar. Even Cakewalk knows that. In North America, at least they take Sonar more seriously.

I don't know about North America, I think you must be from Cloud Cuckoo land.
 
As someone who lives in Europe I can promise you that this is rubbish.

elsongs


I don't think this matters to Cakewalk one bit. SoS is a British publication, and no one (okay, maybe there's like 8 of you) in Europe uses Sonar anyway, so they're like, "Meh." Nearly all of Cakewalk's customer base is in US/Canada. Now if Keyboard or Computer Music gives X2 a bad review, Cakewalk will definitely listen.

Aside from the hundreds just on this board, there are at least 3 Sonar users just in the tiny backwater Scottish town I live in.

PTheory


If you install the complete waves pack it loses lots of my other plugins saying I have to reduce the number of plug ins as sonar can't handle it

I've got over 1000 plugs on my test machine including Waves Mercury 9. Sonar sees them all without a problem. The key PT, is to create a custom plug list using plugin manager. It's time consuming, but soo worth while. Once you save it and back it up, if you ever have a serious crash and reinstall your plugs, you can just drop the plug menu in and it will automatically work.
 
-Danny

elsongs


I don't think this matters to Cakewalk one bit. SoS is a British publication, and no one (okay, maybe there's like 8 of you) in Europe uses Sonar anyway, so they're like, "Meh." Nearly all of Cakewalk's customer base is in US/Canada. Now if Keyboard or Computer Music gives X2 a bad review, Cakewalk will definitely listen.

Computer Music is a "British" publication.
 
Grum.

grumbleweed4162

elsongs


I don't think this matters to Cakewalk one bit. SoS is a British publication, and no one (okay, maybe there's like 8 of you) in Europe uses Sonar anyway, so they're like, "Meh." Nearly all of Cakewalk's customer base is in US/Canada. Now if Keyboard or Computer Music gives X2 a bad review, Cakewalk will definitely listen.

Computer Music is a "British" publication.
 
Grum.

What's that matter? There's only eight of us.

Its not easy to be that incorrect and inaccurate in one post; it takes real talent. Every fact Elsongs writes about is wrong. A first as far back as I can remember.