Just FYI - the Sgt. Pepper's sessions used more than one four-track, there was quite a bit of bouncing.

Dr. Mac


I read the SOS review and felt it was positive overall, but luke-warm.  SOS has always been a bit partial to pro-tools and MAC DAWs and is heavily sponsored by some of the "big boys".  I've also noticed that they seem to use unflattering screenshots when reviewing Cakewalk products. 

In all fairness, though, SOS were "early adopters" of Sonar coverage - they asked me to start writing my Sonar column for them ten years ago, and have published it almost without interruption since then. One of the reasons why is because when the column got bumped a couple of times for space reasons, Sonar users were very vocal with their dissatisfaction. With evidence that the column was very popular, they've continued to include it. I can't think of any other magazine that gives coverage to Sonar virtually every month. 

It got bumped this month?

Anderton

Dr. Mac


I read the SOS review and felt it was positive overall, but luke-warm.  SOS has always been a bit partial to pro-tools and MAC DAWs and is heavily sponsored by some of the "big boys".  I've also noticed that they seem to use unflattering screenshots when reviewing Cakewalk products. 

In all fairness, though, SOS were "early adopters" of Sonar coverage - they asked me to start writing my Sonar column for them ten years ago, and have published it almost without interruption since then. One of the reasons why is because when the column got bumped a couple of times for space reasons, Sonar users were very vocal with their dissatisfaction. With evidence that the column was very popular, they've continued to include it. I can't think of any other magazine that gives coverage to Sonar virtually every month. 

Craig - 


We know each other in person, and you know I think you're an awesome dude.

Don't take this the wrong way, but whenever I see any mention of "Sonar" in a music production publication, I check the byline and 90% of the time, it's your name (and the other 10%, it's someone affiliated with Cakewalk). Not to take anything away from your expertise, writing ability or just plain awesomeness at all, and this is absolutely NO fault of your own, but I'd like to see more Sonar coverage in music publications written by people not named Craig Anderton (or anyone from Cakewalk) - The sole reason being that it would be nice to see that you're not the only Sonar user out there in the music production media. 

Again, it's not that I don't appreciate what you do in the press regarding Sonar - I definitely do, and nor do I have issues with what you write about -- I always learn something new, and that's the purpose of your articles after all. (Conversely, if you weren't out there, then no one would be covering Sonar...), but it would give more "cred" to Sonar to see other people write about Sonar-related topics. I'm just tired of seeing Sonar overlooked nearly all the time.

PTheory


Thanks yes I tried that as the means to get it working and it was a complete pain, that was my point I didbn't need to do it in other software

Danny Danzi

PTheory


If you install the complete waves pack it loses lots of my other plugins saying I have to reduce the number of plug ins as sonar can't handle it

I've got over 1000 plugs on my test machine including Waves Mercury 9. Sonar sees them all without a problem. The key PT, is to create a custom plug list using plugin manager. It's time consuming, but soo worth while. Once you save it and back it up, if you ever have a serious crash and reinstall your plugs, you can just drop the plug menu in and it will automatically work.

-Danny

Yep, and I too will agree with you that it is something Sonar needs to address so that you're not forced to do a custom plug list. However, I'd not have it any other way as my custom list is so cool, I'd not want "just a list" that shows everything. When you have as many plugs as you and I have or have enough to where you get that Sonar plug warning message....you HAVE to have a custom plug list just so you always know what you have on there.
 
From creating my custom plug list, I can systematically name nearly every plug on my system. I can look at my plugin manager and know in a second when a .dll shouldn't be there or something is new. Other than a few rogue plugs and some freebies that I may not use often, I can name every major plug on my system. Without plugin manager and the abilities it has given me to create custom directories (either by plug type or plug company) I would just have a bunch of stuff on my box that I wouldn't even know about.
 
Knowing about them also reminds you to get rid of them if you don't use them....which is something I've been doing more of lately. Certain plugs I just know I'm not going to use. When I do a plug scan for a new plug or go through my custom directories, it reminds me of this.
 
Again, I'm not disagreeing with you. I sincerely feel that plug warning thing needs to be taken care of somehow if at all possible. But once a person takes the time to create a custom plug list, you'll never go back to just having one big bunch all over the place. In seconds I know what I need as well as where it can be found without scrolling or guessing where it may be hiding.
 
I urge anyone that hasn't tried to create a custom list to take an hour or two and do it if you can find the time. I've created them since this feature was given to us in Cakewalk and have saved every version I've ever made and time stamped it so I know when it was used and on what pc. Tedious and time consuming to do if you have loads of plugs, but the best final outcome over any other DAW I use in this respect. :)
 
-Danny

daveny5


Who cares? The Beatles "Sgt Peppers" was recorded on 4-track tape. Sonar can do a lot more than that. Its not the brush, its the artist wielding it. 

I couldn't agree more. Hmmmn (2 x 4track tapes synced together)

Someone mentioned on page 2 that Roland is UK based. I'm sure that they have a major office there, but Roland headquarters is based in Japan.

elsongs

Bristol_Jonesey


8?

Eight?

Try having a look at the Member List and sort on location

Okay, I was being a bit sardonic, but let's face it: In Europe, Sonar just isn't a major DAW program. More people in Europe use freaking *Fruity Loops* than Sonar. Even Cakewalk knows that. In North America, at least they take Sonar more seriously.

 
Are you living under a rock, Dude?
No serious producer in Europe or in US would even consider Ableton LIVE or Fruity loops as a real professional DAW. LIVE are more or less an Rewire application.
Me too are based in Europe and I use SONAR X2. We in Europe use Cubase, Nunedo, SONAR, Studio One, Samplitude, Logic Pro and Pro Tools.  Many in Europe are forefront pioneer in technology use only the best so that is why many (almost all major studios) have dropped Pro Tools HD, no x64bit support. Most use Cubase and Logic over here. Some producers use Studio One, SONAR and Samplitude.

Underwhelming review in sound on sound magazine!

Where are the review? Can some link to it?

Many in Europe are forefront pioneer in technology use only the best

and also responsible for alot of electronical mindless dreck..