brconflict


I highly recommend a rollback point. Also, I really don't like calling support--wasn't a very good experience in the past, but Webex could be useful. Sidenote: Using ASIO Driver Mode doesn't recognize my MOTU 24 i/o even though the MOTU supports ASIO.

br, this is where your problem lies brother. You definitely gotta find a way to use ASIO. I can't even use WDM on any of my systems since moving to Win 7 x64. I'd contact MOTU and see if they can help you figure out why your card is not being recognized. I'm sure you've done this...but if not, see if there are any current driver updates. If you have the latest, sometimes going back a version may help with an issue. I've had to do this a few times too.
 
Also, just for the heck of it...if you have that 64 bit precision mix engine thing enabled, try killing that check box. I can't even use that on my systems for some odd reason. I get pops, clicks, glitches and other weird artifacts whenever I have that box checked. But definitely contact MOTU...you soo have to be using ASIO or you'll always have an issue. If you are using X1 via WDM mode...you're actually lucky to be quite honest. At any rate, good luck...I hope you can fix your issues.
 
-Danny

Sure, 100+. When using Waves NLS, the idea is to use them across your DAW. Add an EQ, compressor, and maybe an effect, such as a reverb, or using a second EQ for surgical corrections, you could easily collect 4 plug-ins on any one channel in some cases. Then add that to 8 busses or more, and use NLS Buss and other more finalizing type plug-ins, such as the Waves API 2500, that could add an additional one or two plug-ins per buss. Now up the scale a bit to over 70 tracks in a DAW and then you could easily accumulate over 200+ plug-ins, requiring an ultra-fast or beefed up machine. This may sound counter-productive, to say the least, but unless I've got the perfect room, instruments, mics, mic pre's, perfect converters, cabling, power, and not to leave out...perfect band and many days of working with them, at least some element of tweaking afterward is going to happen, even if it's merely an artistic choice. I'm impressed that the modern DAW's can natively handle this, but that isn't really the point (not that you're doing any harm in making a friendly quip). The problem we're seeing is that it does seem to require just a little more horsepower to run X2a, estimating that some added feature or tweak for Windows 8 is creating additional overhead for X2a on Windows 7.

@Danny; I should have clarified, X2 does actually "see" the MOTU device, even when ASIO Driver is selected, but the DAW not allow me to select them (all grayed out). And yeah, I left the 64-Bit Double Precision unchecked. It works fine for me, but I don't need it. Thanks!

brconflict


@Danny; I should have clarified, X2 does actually "see" the MOTU device, even when ASIO Driver is selected, but the DAW not allow me to select them (all grayed out). And yeah, I left the 64-Bit Double Precision unchecked. It works fine for me, but I don't need it. Thanks!

For me, when I want to switch drivers I have to UN-check the one currently being used to be able to get other ASIO drivers to be able to be selected.


Could this maybe be happening to you?


Bob Bone

So what's the consensus on the X2a update?

Is it safe to install, or should I hold off for a while until X2b is released?

Thanks.

Dave King


So what's the consensus on the X2a update?

Is it safe to install, or should I hold off for a while until X2b is released?

Thanks.

Safe as houses here, and for many others.  YMMV

Ditto, certainly no negatives here with the patch.
 

robert_e_bone

brconflict


@Danny; I should have clarified, X2 does actually "see" the MOTU device, even when ASIO Driver is selected, but the DAW not allow me to select them (all grayed out). And yeah, I left the 64-Bit Double Precision unchecked. It works fine for me, but I don't need it. Thanks!

For me, when I want to switch drivers I have to UN-check the one currently being used to be able to get other ASIO drivers to be able to be selected.


Could this maybe be happening to you?


Bob Bone

Yep. Any device selected will grey out other choices in ASIO mode. Onboard devices being the likely candidates.

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
]

Thats pretty strange. Have you tried resetting your audio configuration to defaults? 
I suggest that you call  support since can help you troubleshoot it. Its likely to be a configuration issue. 

Well, I did a clean reinstall of X2 and the X2a patch.  The problem I had before is there again:  there is a 3 second delay after hitting play for a project that started pretty much instantaneously in X2 without the patch.  There is a 6 or 7  second delay upon hitting record that was also not there with the same project before the patch.
 
So I tried resetting audio configuration to defaults, and now the project won't play at all for more than a second.  (Thanks for that advice, Noel!  LOL!)
 
I hate getting on the phone with support--often futile--but I have to now.
 
X2 sucked for me because take lanes were so buggy.  (Hit mute on a lane, and it sometimes plays anyway, copy/paste weirdness, etc.)
X2a sucks for me because it won't even play.
 
I'm convinced that X2a has introduced performance issues for some Win7 x64 systems.
 
I've been with Sonar for every version since 2.2.  It's been like having a spouse who is a drunk, and I always knew the only real solution.

Saxon set the audio device in Preferences. Be sure you select the best driver type for your device. If it a WDM type driver set the buffers to something in the moderate range to start. If ASIO do the same for it with its control panel. Set the bit depth and sample rate. Be sure that you have no other audio device selected along with your primary one in Sonar. 

You may need to change the type of driver and test which one works best. 

On my system I can use WDM type or ASIO with no difference in performance. 

Because I am running Windows 8 I have Windows 8 drivers. Your system should work with Windows 7 drivers fine.

I run the X2a patch with not issues at all. In fact X2 unpatched was not as stable as the X2a patch for me. 

Right now I can say I have my system work as well as it ever has and perhaps a little better. 

Unless there is a fundamental reason that your system is unstable or not a good system for multi track audio you should have a stable working X2. 

I have read many threads with problems after the X2a patch which I find odd. I don't know why people are having trouble but I do think something is causing this that may not be very apparent. It could be a graphics card or a USB issue. I do know that far more people are not seeing these problems.