I was already a subscriber so it's not a plus for me...

...but it is a big plus for all the Sonar owners who aren't subscribers. Can't say enough good things about the G3 videos. I've learned so much about tools and techniques. For those who have never had the pass before: go for it! You won't regret it.

As for Cakewalk making the offering, just reinforces my original and ongoing positive outlook about the company. Tres Magnifique!

Regards,

not really cranky.. but I bet the membership isn't low for g3 if you use a lot of things = it's far cheaper to get a year pass...the month pass has been offered at least 2 places else I know of ... music tech and one of the big US shops

it would be far better to get something exclusive , perhaps from roland sound wise etc.. that you can't get anywhere else.. (no I'm not talking yet another version of the 808 / 909 kits either)

the strings thing is the only freebie that was "nicely" marketed as an exclusive for pre-orders.. and then what happens.. it is available for full orders after. Guess I'll be upgrading with a UK shop next time.

the loopmaster stuff, well sorry.. I could have got most of that as sneaky peaks etc.. so not really exclusive either. I'm sure I have some of it on a computer music mag dvd, no doubt

you think the companies who are in co-op aren't getting business from cakewalk indirectly or directly .e.g. the soundpacks bundled with sonar itself. so it's a free advert also

even if they are getting billed for it, that's factored into what we are paying, as I don't assume cake is a charity .. and the groove3 thing is targeted marketing , so if it gets them more yearly passes= good for them. 

I guess it stems back from when i did a website.. every year we'd offer something that was never released and it was only available to that time... not repeated.


offering loops as wav.. is like me giving you a birthday "cake".. in the form of some eggs / flour / icing and saying get on with it..lol (it isn't 1991 and I don't own an akai 950 )

So I ask again, what exactly would you have them give out for free? Shouldn't be too hard to think of something. Maybe I just see freebies differently. Was your website for a multi-million dollar company with thousands of unique paying customers around the world? Otherwise it's comparing apples to oranges. Asking me what i think as far as how Cakewalk deals with third party companies is neither here nor there because people tend to make up the answer that fits into what they already think. I can readily say I have no idea. They could have a great deal with groove3 or loopmasters or it could be an absolutely stupid deal. Matters not. You claim\ we are getting billed for the freebies but I have no clue what you base that on. Have you seen some kind of accounting form with lines saying "let's give them loop samplers and bill it to them?" I know I haven't. In fact, it makes more sense that the freebies are coming at little to no cost to them so that they can afford to offer them free. Factoring in something with limited appeal and raising the price is a very convoluted process. Anyway, I digress. Can you at least name one practical thing you want from them for free that would satisfy you?

Okay... let's bring this back to earth.

So I'm not familiar with this website or how the subscription works. I'm assuming I have to create an account and then I can watch these streaming for a month.

So... no downloads, right? ALL their videos are available for streaming, right? For example I was poking around and saw the Mixing 101 http://www.groove3.com/str/Mix-School-101.html... So can I watch all of those vids?

It looks like there are a bunch more I'd check out too. Mostly actual recording concepts. I've got enough material about Sonar. What I'll probably do is wait until the last couple days to redeem it (currently working through the X2 manual) then just spend every darned day for a month watching as much as I can and take notes along the way.

So if that's how this works... then yeah, this is FINALLY a super useful freebie for me.

I'd get more mileage out of that month than others though because I can literally spend all day every day watching the things. Perhaps my head will finally explode. ;-)

I'm not a subscriber, and there are a bunch of vids that I'll watch, so this is pretty good.

beep , you can watch them.. free for a month.. a year pass , allows you to acess them to view.. but if you wanna download = they charge

jeff it's worth subbing IF you have enough of what they due vid's for.. xmas they has a good deal on , so I renewed then to my existing one

dub, your right... it's like comparing apples / oranges ..the folks who I did the site for had FAR less resources than roland does, or cakewalk.. the smart thing for them would be to include something from their sound libs or synths (bet they have shedloads from even the s760 etc) that could be re-used..... it's a bit like me buying u-he diva.. the demo swayed me enough.

fog, not trying to give you a hard time, just looking for something that can be presented to them for ideas. Nothing is going to please everyone. I'm sure those who don't use softsytnths or samples would have no use for your suggestion and the staff view mafia will likely hate any freebie that does not include an a-z list of every request they want, but it never hurts to try. I think old s760 stuff would be awesome.

Thanks, Fog. I'm excited to watch them but I must resist the temptation until I get through the manual... at least the important bits. Cheers.

dubdisciple


fog, not trying to give you a hard time, just looking for something that can be presented to them for ideas. Nothing is going to please everyone. I'm sure those who don't use softsytnths or samples would have no use for your suggestion and the staff view mafia will likely hate any freebie that does not include an a-z list of every request they want, but it never hurts to try. I think old s760 stuff would be awesome.

it just annoys me there is a shedload of roland stuff, that I doubt roland would mind being tapped into not being utilised, that is gathering dust.. that *WOULD* be exclusive to the majority.. 


the staff thing doesn't overly bother me, as I use cubase as well *BUT* I can understand it being important to others.. and well I some of this content as carrot dangling , or an intro to another company.. which is fair enough. 


Just when you already have it .. you think err? and cake are just tapping into something I already know to be good. it would work in their favour also... bringing something roland to the table that no other DAW has access to.

I'm more one for actions than the usual marketing speak.. and from such actions you get people talking, including the rivals. no big budget needed , word of mouth is the best advert