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2014/09/21 21:36:24
Freddy J
Great song but I agree that it is way over compressed.  You got some great advice above.  Clean it up a bit and you'll have a nice song.
2014/09/22 12:36:17
thegaltieribrothers
Thanks for the advice and comments, we've tried another mix as follows;
 
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=12922445&q=hi&newref=1
 
Thanks for listening!
2014/09/22 19:19:12
daryl1968
I didn't hear the original mix but I like this - great song. The vocal has a hint of Ian Curtis from Joy Division
2014/09/22 23:08:03
RobertB
It's moving in the right direction.
Maybe give the vocals a little more air.
I'm not too keen on the hard left panning of the guitar, but if you had some more energy on the right to balance it out, it might work. The pad seems left-centric as well.
Just curious, are you recording mono sources to stereo tracks? This typically leaves you left side heavy, and difficult to move in the stereo field. If that's the case, you can split the stereo track into two mono tracks, and it is much easier to work with.
Currently, my meters are relatively even, probably because the drums and bass are fairly centered (lots of energy there), but the right side sounds pretty vacant.
As James noted, there is a good song trying to get out here.
I, for one, want to hear this thing sizzle, and I think you can do it.
2014/09/24 15:58:52
thegaltieribrothers
Hi guys, thanks again for the advice, it turns out we have a penchant for panning everything to the left. We've tried some re-panning, given the vocals some air and present our latest effort below;
 
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=12924329&q=hi&newref=1
 
Thanks again for listening!
2014/09/24 22:23:57
RobertB
Much better!
Vocals pulled up very nicely. I really like where that is.
Guitar is still pinned left. This is a mono source, so don't record it to a stereo track. If you do that, you are stuck on the left side, and there's not a whole lot you can do about it.
There is a way out, however, and it's not terribly difficult, but I want to make sure we're on the same page first.
You are doing a great job dialing this mix in, so keep going.
2014/09/24 23:05:53
Lynn
Guys, this is a fine song with a lot of potential, but it still sounds pinched to me.  I suspect that you're over compressing the direct tracks rather than the entire mix.  The guitar sounds nice and jangly, though, I'd like to hear it doubled and panned opposite.  That way you could pan the synth part in the center, and the overall mix would be more balanced.  Why not try a mix without compression and just add it lightly on the lead vox? I like the way your drums are sounding in this version, and the bass drum can be heard well.  Once you give this some breathing space, it'll just pop out of the speakers, then you can bring the entire mix up in volume at the mastering stage (just don't overdo it).  Best of luck to you.  
2014/09/25 00:13:44
RobertB
Robby, how 'bout you give it a rest? You are being your usual tiresome self.
Let's help these guys out, OK?
When I am working on a song, I tend to not listen or post on other songs, because I struggle to stay focused. And for what it's worth, they have commented on a few other tunes.
2014/09/25 07:35:15
Guitarhacker
 
I listened to the several mixes. And I agree it's moving in a good direction.
 
The key to getting good at mixing is a cumulative process. The more you do it, the better you get. In addition you need to study and analyze the things you do that work and don't work and why.
 
Robert pointed out doubling the electric and panning it opposite. I use that a lot on acoustic guitar and it certainly puts a nice solid, wide bed in place for the rest of the tracks.   Shoot for a nice, clean, balanced mix. You can always make it louder later.
 
Several of my rules of thumb include:
 
Get good input levels and have the recorded wave that is displayed in the track somewhere around the 50% level. That's usually plenty sufficient. More is OK as long as nothing is clipped or over.  Less is often OK.... 50% is just my target zone.  Too high and it simply means you will be pulling the faders down more in the final mix. Too low and you're tempted to push above 0db and use FX to get the levels up high enough.
 
Record mono things in mono. Rarely do you (I) actually need a stereo track in the mix.
 
Use busses.  More then once I have set up a "band" buss to route all the band through..... rather then go back and lower the levels to match and balance, I set up a buss to do that.
 
Keep the individual tracks out of the red. (basic rule of thumb for avoiding distortion and clipping)
 
Use FX sparingly. My tracks are mostly empty with a few exceptions and that's usually an EQ.  If you find yourself grabbing and using a compressor or Boost11 to bring a track up....ask yourself WHY? It might be better to turn the other tracks down...... go back to  "Use Busses"....
 
Mix, mix, mix and mix some more. Your stuff, other people's stuff, and then remix some of your old stuff starting from scratch. It's amazing how, after a few years, if you go back and remix the old stuff, you will see how far you have actually come in that time.....
 
BTW: the song is a good one.... so keep working on the mix..... but don't obsess or burn out on it.
 
 
2014/09/25 10:00:03
Wookiee
As noted  by the majority this is moving in the right direction, pinning that opening guitar to the left is for me most disconcerting.  Move slight nearer to the centre and as suggest by Guitarhacker and Robert something to balance the energy on the right.
 
Still enjoying the song and look forward to the next mix
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