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  • Fades To Black - Too grim? (p.3)
2014/09/29 15:02:50
Lynn
Ben, thanks for the super response.  You've put forth a lot of ideas which makes me wish that you had been here when I first recorded this.  I'll try to cut through to the gist.  As for the vocorder, it's actually samples that came with the version of CW that I recorded this (I think, maybe, S5), so I can't really redo them per se.  Your thoughts on the vocals make sense, to me.  Those changes I can make.  As for the rest, they're intriguing ideas, though, this song will probably get only a modest remake in the end.  I can tell you're on a whole other level than I am in regards to production techniques, but I'm here to learn, and you've started the wheels turning for me.  Thanks a ton, Ben!
2014/09/29 15:43:08
polarbear
I don't think there is any topic too dark/grim for art. I also think its a really great song! At first I wasn't really feeling the mix on the intro with the distorted voice and drums to be honest, but as soon as everything else came in with the bass and guitar and the vocals came in, I really love it. It's such a cool song. 
2014/09/29 21:05:23
BenMMusTech
Lynn
Ben, thanks for the super response.  You've put forth a lot of ideas which makes me wish that you had been here when I first recorded this.  I'll try to cut through to the gist.  As for the vocorder, it's actually samples that came with the version of CW that I recorded this (I think, maybe, S5), so I can't really redo them per se.  Your thoughts on the vocals make sense, to me.  Those changes I can make.  As for the rest, they're intriguing ideas, though, this song will probably get only a modest remake in the end.  I can tell you're on a whole other level than I am in regards to production techniques, but I'm here to learn, and you've started the wheels turning for me.  Thanks a ton, Ben!


No I'm just a fool Lynn re:production techniques I spend too much time alone, so all I have is my machines...lol.  Any questions you may have re:production just email me, I will PM it to you if you want it, I've helped out Stuart (he hasn't been around for a while) and I'd be happy to help out you.  Maybe if you want some ideas for tracks you are doing you can send me some rough's and I can offer, and offer is the word some tips.  But the offer is there.
 
Ben 
2014/09/30 17:11:42
Freddy J
Wow, excellent song!  I love the new wave sound of this.  There is a sense of urgency to this song that really complements the lyrics.  I really like the bass lines as I do that guitar line (panned Left).  They both really carry the song along while the rest of the instrumentation provides nice accents to the lyrics.  I am not very sophisticated in my mixing and mastering or even in my music in general but I think that this number sounds great just as is.  Most of the early new wavy stuff was a little bit rough --- which in MHO was its charm.  Would too much "engineering" take away from the feel of the topic and lyrics of the song (rhetorical question)?
 
I appreciate the topic and lyrics of this song.  No I don't believe music will cause world peace but I do appreciate that music can provide the opportunity for thought and reflection.  You have done that in this song.
2014/10/01 09:46:47
evadianepug
Wild tune!  Like AT said, everything is on the table in music.  Grim, yeah, but how grim is the subject?  The music conveyed the theme perfectly.  Wow the bathtub line almost made me cry.  My Grandkids (I babysit 4 days a week) will be here in just a bit and I know that it's God's grace (my opinion, no salvos please) that keeps us from crossing that line.  Mixed well, played well and sung well.  Scary but it's a scary subject.  Hey, Lynn have you ever posted this before?  That whole bathtub line sounds so familiar.  Great work, buddy!
2014/10/01 11:50:38
Lynn
Polarbear (David), thanks for you kind words.  Very much appreciated.
 
Ben, I appreciate your generous offer.  It goes both ways!
 
Freddy, thank you so much for your time.  Your words help validate this for me.
 
Warren, yes I did post this about 5 years ago before I started hanging out here much.  It's really come a long ways since then.  I've often thought about doing a video for this, but the bathtub scene might be too much for even me to handle.  What do you think?
2014/10/01 12:03:14
evadianepug
It would have to be an implied scene.  I don't know that anyone (well some could) could watch that.  You know, show the bathroom, her acting leads you to understand what she is going to do , etc.  However, I don't know that a video is the best way to go.  I can't offer any real help on whether you should do that or not.  I'm sure you would do it tastefully.  I knew that bathtub thing was up here before.  It affected me then as it does now.   I don't remember a lot about it then (I think I might have said I didn't like the subject matter) but if memory serves, the music and production is much better now.  That can solve a lot of problems!  Good luck with what ever decision you make, buddy!
2014/10/01 12:11:35
Lynn
This is probably best left to the imagination.  I'll leave stories like this for Wes Craven.
2014/10/01 12:14:52
evadianepug
LOL!!!
2014/10/01 17:33:42
tom1
 
reminds me of Roxette at times;  mix sounds excellent on my system.
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