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2017/11/23 12:07:25
THambrecht
... I read in german posts to some articles that a lot of users are skeptical changing to a new DAW.
Again there is the fear that DAWs like Cubase or Studio One don't survive the next 10 years. The people are very uncertain. For example Steinberg Cubase is wholly owned by Yamaha.
I also read that a lot of people really hope, that Cakewalk is bought by any company.
 
I'm also insecure. I don't want to change to an other DAW which will also be closed in 5 years.
 
 
2017/11/23 12:16:58
Vastman
Cubase isn't going anywhere...most independent professional orchestrators, film and game composers, and others LOVE IT! Presonus seems to appeal to rockers and has killer integrated hardware... doubt its going anywhere either...
 
Quit whining! Figure out what speakes to you and grab hold.  Any of these, including current Sonar, is a miracle when viewed against what I had a decade or more ago...
 
As The Craig notes,in his song, "when the grid goes down..." you REALLY need to focus on OTHER REEEEAAAL problems... your worries are pretty xxxxxxx...  Gosh, I gotta get out of here! CU... I'm out!
2017/11/23 13:23:45
35mm
Some years ago I would never have thought Cakewalk would go. At the end of the day, you can't grow too close to any tools as you always run this risk of something like this happening at some point in the future. Times change. I guess all those users here that are still running Sonar 8.5 are now laughing. They won't have to worry.
2017/11/23 13:27:28
aidanodr
35mm
Some years ago I would never have thought Cakewalk would go. At the end of the day, you can't grow too close to any tools as you always run this risk of something like this happening at some point in the future. Times change. I guess all those users here that are still running Sonar 8.5 are now laughing. They won't have to worry.




And if you did have 8.5 ( Like me :D ) .. then its still downloadable from your account / MY PRODUCTS Section. Then you dont have to worry either :D
2017/11/23 13:35:56
35mm
I do have 8.5 :) I don't want to use that again though!
2017/11/23 16:47:00
dubdisciple
Presonus can use successful hardware business to drive software business. They will likely be fine.
2017/11/23 17:10:11
kitekrazy1
dubdisciple
Presonus can use successful hardware business to drive software business. They will likely be fine.



 and it's their own creation unlike Tascam-Gigastudio, Mackie-Tracktion
 
 When hardware companies acquire someone's software it's a big risk.  Yamaha had their own DAW and was also in software development then they acquired Steinberg.
 
  DAW users try to persuade software developers to move into the hardware market.  While Ableton has Push there are users who have concern updates concern hardware more than software features.
 
  Reason tried having their own hardware - failed.  BTW VST support brought them some more life as this DAW was going downhill fast.
2017/11/23 18:50:21
michael diemer
35mm
Some years ago I would never have thought Cakewalk would go. At the end of the day, you can't grow too close to any tools as you always run this risk of something like this happening at some point in the future. Times change. I guess all those users here that are still running Sonar 8.5 are now laughing. They won't have to worry.


I'M definitely not laughing. I have already cried over this. As a former president once said, "I feel your pain." I may be losing the best forum on the internet, a place I visit constantly even though I've been mostly using Reaper the last year and a half. This forum is irreplaceable. 
2017/11/23 20:33:19
chilldanny
I can safely say with a great deal of certainty that the likes of Logic, Pro Tools, and Ableton Live will be around for a very long time to come.  This is simply because they all have a well developed and established niche in the music software market, this breeds confidence in those products and as such, they receive the lion's share of the (ever shrinking) revenue stream.  
 
I work in the education sector here in the UK, delivering music and music tech courses up to degree level.  I can't tell you how much we spend on software licenses obviously, but what I can tell you is that it is one of our largest spends, year after year.  Can you imagine how much revenue Apple, Avid and Ableton generate through the education sector alone?  Worldwide?
 
It is all about confidence.  Pick one of the above and you'll be able to spend your hard earned with confidence, a safe purchase.
 
I think the wisest advice I could ever give among the sadness and aftermath of Cakewalk's cruel demise, is to learn and use multiple DAW's.  There are many of them and they're all great, find a couple that you like and get busy.  Then at least, you're covered if anyone should ever try and do a Gibson on you.
 
Personally I fully intend to use Sonar for many many more projects and feel no need to suddenly move to something else entirely.  My system works very well and handles all I could ever need, and so will now be forever frozen in time as my dedicated Sonar Platinum machine.
 
Try not to fear the change, embrace it.  Many creative discoveries await you 
2017/11/23 22:08:40
Soundwise
THambrecht
I'm also insecure. I don't want to change to an other DAW which will also be closed in 5 years.

I absolutely agree. Software is overprice. Physical gear can be obtained at lower price, will last lifetime, almost always has open architecture (can be maintained and fixed by any qualified engineer). Also each piece of hardware involves production, packaging, logistic, storage costs, taxes, salaries, etc., that is, besides development cost. I have come to conclusion, that software more often than not is overhyped and overpriced. Most of the good folks from the Deals forum will agree on that. So I'll stay with what I already have and not gonna spend my money on any product that's not heavily discounted.
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