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  • Survival of Cubase, Studio One and other DAWs ... (p.2)
2017/11/23 22:40:45
Rain
I was more worried about Steinberg last decade when they were acquired by Pinnacle and then sold to Yamaha shortly after. But Yamaha seems to have been taking great care of Steinberg.
 
Too bad things didn't go the same way with Roland and Cakewalk.
2017/11/23 22:59:58
paulo
Rain
I was more worried about Steinberg last decade when they were acquired by Pinnacle and then sold to Yamaha shortly after. But Yamaha seems to have been taking great care of Steinberg.
 
Too bad things didn't go the same way with Roland and Cakewalk.




Oh man......Steinberg/Pinnacle was when I first dipped my toes into the DAW world with whatever the junior version of Cubase was at that time.......... It didn't go well. It just crashed on me every time I changed a synth patch and the support was hopeless. In the end I just threw it away and went back to my old way of doing things until I was in a studio one day and the guy there was using Sonar which I'd never even heard of before. I sat and watched him do his thing for a while and it just seemed so much more intuitive than whatever Cubase version I had. I had been just about to drop big ££ on a new workstation type keyboard upgrade, but binned that idea there and then, bought Sonar instead and never looked back. (until now)
2017/11/24 00:33:08
Resonant Serpent
paulo
Rain
I was more worried about Steinberg last decade when they were acquired by Pinnacle and then sold to Yamaha shortly after. But Yamaha seems to have been taking great care of Steinberg.
 
Too bad things didn't go the same way with Roland and Cakewalk.




Oh man......Steinberg/Pinnacle was when I first dipped my toes into the DAW world with whatever the junior version of Cubase was at that time.......... It didn't go well. It just crashed on me every time I changed a synth patch and the support was hopeless. In the end I just threw it away and went back to my old way of doing things until I was in a studio one day and the guy there was using Sonar which I'd never even heard of before. I sat and watched him do his thing for a while and it just seemed so much more intuitive than whatever Cubase version I had. I had been just about to drop big ££ on a new workstation type keyboard upgrade, but binned that idea there and then, bought Sonar instead and never looked back. (until now)




Those were rough days for Cubase. I bought it also at that time, and ended up selling it shortly after. I had the dreaded bug where MIDI and audio wouldn't line up, and no one could solve it on Windows.
 
I've been using Cubase since 7, and every release has only gotten better. 
 
Cubase 9.5 is everything that everything that Sonar 8.5.3 should have become.
 
Support does take longer to answer than they used to, but I've yet to run into a problem that couldn't be answered by posting on the forum. I'd say it has a solid future since it's one of the most popular daws on the planet, and has a long list of high profile users in every genre of music.
2017/11/24 00:39:19
denverdrummer
Hanz Zimmer uses Cubase exclusively for scoring. It's not going anywhere.  It's the king of Midi for DAW's.  While Pro Tools is the king for large studios, the midi in Pro Tools is probably the worst among any DAW.
2017/11/24 13:01:06
sonarman1
Reposting here. This is the facebook fanbase of these official facebook pages.

Cakewalk Soft 143k
Presonus 218k
Pro Tools 140K
Avid 185K
Steinberg 203K
Ableton 622k
Ableton Live 253k

This can by no mean help us know the market share but these numbers do matter. Ableton Live is for sure having a huge userbase. Protools despite low fanbase is used a lot by pros and is sold along with Avid Hardware. That makes lot of profit. Ableton also sells hardware controllers. So I guess Ableton and Pro Tools has huge market share. 

Presonus is doing well and they are good at selling hardwares as well. They must be making very good profits. 

Cubase is heavily priced and still has long standing followers. Steinberg might not be doing excellent business as Ableton and Protools but I dont think they will go down anytime. If at all any such situation occurs I am sure its loyal millionaire producers will fund it. 

Despite not covering the huge mac userbase cakewalk was hugely successful. They weren't doing excellent in the market but they were doing fine. The problem is they had no expensive hardware to sell along with it to make business. And very unfortunate to land in the hands of Gibson 
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