• SONAR
  • Recording Input Meter issue Sonar X1
2012/12/15 16:15:20
dabogdan
Hello all, I have a strange problem with Sonar X1 when I attempt to record a track. Let's say I have some input that is currently clipping, but it can be at any level. I have the option to use the fader in the console to raise and lower the input to the track. It seems that no matter what I do, the meter next to the track does not change, even if I bring the fader all the way down to zero. The same hold true for the gain control. Therefore I don't know what the level is inbound to the track. I am currently mixing the tracks via a sound board (in fron to the delta 1010s) because of this. If I use Sonar 2. I have no issues. I am glad I did not delete this version. Because of this I am now hesitant to upgrade to X2 from X1. Any Ideas would be appreciated. BTW I am using 2 M Audio Delta 1010 modules with the latest and greatest drivers under XP. I have plans to upgrade to win7 64bit but am also hesitant to do this too. Dave
2012/12/15 16:21:52
jb101
You cannot control input level from within Sonar.  You have to do that from your interface.
2012/12/15 16:26:57
jb101
Sorry - eidited as I had posted in wrong thread.
 
Doh.. 
2012/12/15 16:35:10
John
The record meter when placed in their nominal position, meaning zeroed, will give you an accurate readout of your level. Adjusting them will only skew this and do nothing to adjust the level. Input levels have to be done before they get to the audio interface i.e. sound card. You have to adjust these levels from the device you are recording. 

Jb has it right. So when recording leave the faders in Sonar alone. If your signal is clipping you need to reduce the input level at its source. 
2012/12/15 16:36:23
dabogdan
I think you are probably incorrect. Sonar should be able to control that. That's why there are drivers. If you were correct, then why have a meter or a fader at all? Why would you have a input gain parameter? How would you control the input from say a mic array? no way you are correct. Sonar version 2 does this without any issue. I'll open a service request. And I'll let you know what they say. Thanks for your help anyway.
2012/12/15 16:42:01
jb101
dabogdan


I think you are probably incorrect. Sonar should be able to control that. That's why there are drivers. If you were correct, then why have a meter or a fader at all? Why would you have a input gain parameter? How would you control the input from say a mic array? no way you are correct. Sonar version 2 does this without any issue. I'll open a service request. And I'll let you know what they say. Thanks for your help anyway.

I know I am not incorrect.  Drivers?
 
Why have a meter - to show the level of the signal.
 
Why have a fader - to adjust the output on playback.
 
Why have an input gain control - for gain staging.
 
Before putting in service request, try reading the manual.
2012/12/15 16:55:43
dabogdan
Hey guys, looks like you're all correct and I am not. Sonar version 2 did this and X1 doesn't. boo hoo! Thanks again for your help. Dave
2012/12/15 16:59:20
dabogdan
rtfm! Probably should have read it before I bought it. :)
2012/12/15 16:59:56
wizard71
Moving the faders def does not affect the recording level input. You can see this by enabling the record button and turning down the fader. The meter reading does not change. If you disable the record button and leave input echo on then you will see the output level change. The latter is not the recording level, you only see that with the record button enabled.
At least this is how it works for me.

Bibs
2012/12/15 17:07:30
jb101
I don't know about Sonar 2, but it has certainly been this way since Sonar 6.
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