• SONAR
  • Windows 8 tip: Using Multitouch without a touch enabled monitor
2012/12/30 18:37:33
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Do you have Windows 8 installed but don't currently own a touch enabled monitor or Windows 8 ultrabook?

If you do own an Android tablet, you can use the touch support in SONAR, by using a nifty remote desktop application called Splashtop 2 Remote Desktop. Its quite a powerful client that also handles multi-monitor setups.

By installing a small background app called Splashtop Streamer on the PC, you can remotely connect to your Windows 8 PC from any touch enabled android tablet, and control the PC using native Windows 8 touch gestures. I have an android tablet and its kind of neat to be able to use it as a secondary virtual surface. I can continue to use the mouse and keyboard on the PC but additionally perform all the Win8 touch gestures in SONAR X2A. Its not quite as nice as having a full touch screen but quite usable. Actually in my case my monitors are about 2.5 feet away from me so a touchscreen display would be impractical.


Notes: 

- They have Android, IOS, Windows and Mac clients for this app. You can read about the Windows 8 supported gestures here http://www.splashtop.com/win8  

- If you have done an upgrade install of Windows 7 to Windows 8, you will need to do a repair install of the Splashtop Streamer to get this to work. This is because it needs to install a special virtual HID driver that maps the remote touch gestures into Win8 touch. Unless you reinstall the Splashtop Streamer app you won't get this driver installed coming from Win 7.

- When setting up the client on a tablet, you probably want to set the resolution to "Use computer's native display setting", otherwise it will set the PC to the tablet's display res. Doing this will allow you to work on both the tablet and the PC without affecting the PC's resolution.

I've been having fun playing with my tablet hooked up to the Win8 PC and it seems pretty stable.
2012/12/30 19:58:39
LpMike75
With all due respect...the last thing I want to control anything with, is a touch screen.

1) No sensativity
2) Even if you dont have fat fingers, it feels like it when trying to manipulate anything, via touch screen.  (I have 2 "smart phones")
3) Odd working angles (shoulder problems??)
4) Dorito fingers...

I realize it's cutting edge, and probably great Cakewalk is investing in the technology.  But as far as I'm concerned, I only want to touch my screen when I am wiping the dust off...not Pizza finger grease.


2012/12/30 21:07:08
gbarrett
I have the same app for the iPad. Works like a champ.
2012/12/30 21:27:21
vladasyn
What's the name of iPad app? Thank you.
2012/12/30 21:54:36
StepD
LpMike75


I realize it's cutting edge, and probably great Cakewalk is investing in the technology.  But as far as I'm concerned, I only want to touch my screen when I am wiping the dust off...not Pizza finger grease.

lol. I guess that's one way to keep people away from your computer and guitars.
2012/12/30 22:43:49
Starise
 That is some really cool info Noel.

 Everybody is different in their studio working techniques it seems.  I can see a definite advantage to using touch screen if I can incorporate it into my working situation in a way that is truly beneficial

 Here are a few FWIW thoughts concerning Sonar X2a,windows 8 and a touch screen. I'm sure you have already given this a lot of thought but maybe another perspective will help.

 I am both a keys player and a guitar player. I had a desk custom built several years ago that positions my midi keyboard right in front of me. I have a keyboard/mouse setup mounted to the desk directly in front of the midi keyboard on a made for that purpose rig. My two screens sit directly in front of me l about 6" up behind the keyboard.Touching them at that angle is counter productive.

 Since making music mostly always involves looking down at the keys....looking down at the keyboard....looking down at the guitar,so from that perspective some kind of a device that is mounted to one side of the computer keyboard would make a really nice touch surface. Mounting something to a stand would be even better because  it could be shifted around but won't fall off the desk if bumped accidentally.

 For me an android pad probably would not give me the full advantage of the experience. It might work in a pinch but not in a day to day situation. Just too small to show all of the tracks.

 I'm thinking something that is a minimum of 19" to 24", talks to X2, and is mounted ergonomically low and close to my normal working position. I could use my other two monitors to show various processes and load the  mixer view on the third large touch monitor to make quick changes to the mix as necessary.

 If I didn't like my midi keyboard position so much I would  consider mounting  a large touch screen monitor into my custom mixing desk so that I could simply have it directly in front of me . As it is now, a movable stand or arm would be second choice.

 Here is the dreamer in me  talking now...... I am away from my studio with my touch laptop working on a mix . When I get home to my studio I simply clip the laptop into the movable arm and it automatically connects with my larger PC and all of its systems. X2  in my studio PC detects the Sonar in the laptop and uses all of the settings and files I was working on as a reference point with the added benefit of the horsepower and memory in the studio PC.The lappy is a touch screen PC on the go and part of the larger system in the studio. Can it be done?

 I could always copy the Sonar file from the touch laptop to the larger PC ,however needing to make a copy and file transfer each time could become too much to do on a daily basis if a person goes back and forth a lot. I could use only the peripherals from my larger setup but I would be using much less memory and cpu power that might not be up to the task of my project.
2012/12/31 00:39:45
John
Unbelievable! Thank you Noel. Just installed it Outstanding! 
2012/12/31 04:45:19
TabSel
Well, there are quite better Remote Desktop apps available. Teamviewer (free), or Remoter VNC. They dont support win8 multitouch yet, but splashtop doesn't, yet, too.

Also, there are apps, which don't do Remote Desktop, but instead extend your desktop screen real estate with the ipad as additional screen, like iDisplay. So you can have the console on the ipad, without having it on the pc, and use the pc screen(s) for arrange, plugins etc...

2012/12/31 05:20:48
John
And the ones you list support Android tablets right?
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