You might want to get a copy of Win7 instead until it becomes more apparent where Win8 is heading. 7 Home and Pro will be supported until 2018 and obviously most hardware already has drivers for it.

robert_e_bone

Kroneborge


It really doesn't matter what gear or computer you have, Sonar should NEVER crash, this is bad programming. A program should be able to take whatever you throw at it, and keep going. If a plugin etc, is messing up, Sonar needs to work around it. This is basic programming 101, dealing with exceptions. Crashing isn't the answer. Yes this is more difficult in practice than in theory but it doesn't really matter. Before all the bells and whistles, the program should be rock solid.

So, if you put sugar into your gas tank, your car should purr like a kitten?  Should souffles stay fluffy with the window open in a construction zone?


So, it is Sonar's fault if for some inexplicable reason I cannot get it to install in 64-bit mode on a computer with 32-bit Windows running?

Would it be Microsoft's fault that my Xbox 360 can't read a disc that my dog ate - then humped (not sure which order)?

Would it be the auto manufacturer's fault that a hard-left turn into oncoming traffic might result in injury?

Please stick to helping to solve the problems at hand in the post - take up your position on how life should work in its own thread, so people can ignore it without clouding up another poster's issues.

Bob Bone

To be fair, I see his point. Nobody is saying that those incompatible configurations should work, just that they shouldn't crash the program. A gas tank isn't intelligent enough to work its way out of a major error like sugar. It's not programmed to handle "exceptions." A well written computer program, however, should be able to find its way out of an error, not to "make it work" necessarily but to at least tell the user "this particular device has stopped responding" or "this plug has crashed and we're going to close it down," without the whole program locking up or shutting down.  But this is the problem with most programs - they're way too vulnerable and ill prepared for fatal exceptions. 

mgwitt

robert_e_bone

mgwitt


The Correct Way To Uninstall Sonar is as follows:

To completely un-install SONAR X2 Producer from your computer. You will want to manually remove the SONAR installation files by deleting the following directories. Do this by doing the following:

1) Open the Run Prompt by holding down the Windows Key on your computer and pressing "R"
2) In the Run prompt type in the following and press [OK]: C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\
3) Delete the "SONAR X2 Producer" folder contained within

4) Open the Run Prompt by holding down the Windows Key on your computer and pressing "R"
5) In the Run prompt type in the following and press [OK]: %appdata%\Cakewalk
6) Delete the "SONAR X2 Producer" folder contained within

7) Open the Run Prompt by holding down the Windows Key on your computer and pressing "R"
8) In the Run prompt type in the following and press [OK]: %allusersprofile%\Cakewalk
9) Delete the "SONAR X2 Producer" folder contained within

Next you will want to delete your SONAR related registry keys by doing the following:

10) Open the Run Prompt by holding down the Windows Key on your computer and pressing "R"
11) In the Run prompt type in the following and press [OK]: regedit
12) Click [OK] will launch the Registry Editor. If prompted with a message "Do you want to allow the following program to make changes...", click [Yes].

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IMPORTANT: When you access the Registry Editor, create a backup by going to File > Export. In the Export menu, make sure you have "All" selected and that the "Save As Type" is set to "Registration Files (*.reg).

It is very important to create a backup of your registry because if you accidentally delete a registry key there is no undo function. You can, however, double-click on the Registry backup you made above to re-import your registry keys if you make any mistakes. You MUST re-import your backup (if needed) before restarting your computer.
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13) Now delete the following Registry keys:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR Producer\X2
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR Producer\X2


IMPORTANT: You will want to delete the "X2" folder at the end of these strings of keys. Do this by right-clicking on the ""X2" folder and selecting "Delete". Only do this for the "X2" folders in the locations above. If you do not see these ""X2" folders, proceed to the next step.

*Please note that this will remove any effects presets and key bindings you may have made in Cakewalk. You can back these up separately if you like from SONAR's Plug-in Manager and Color and Key Bindings menus.

At this point, you will want to re-install the product. We recommend temporarily disabling your startup programs by doing the following:

14) Open the 'Run' command again and type in the following: msconfig
15) Click [OK] and then click on the Startup tab at the upper right of the window that opens.
16) Uncheck all items listed, click [OK], then restart your computer. You can always recheck those items again at a later time.
17) Reinstall SONAR X2

Isn't there some content to remove, as well?  C:\Cakewalk Content\Sonar X2 Producer


(maybe you mentioned it above and I missed it - I dunno)


Bob Bone

Yes, however if you are planning to reinstall X2 you might want to save your projects etc. This only un-installs the program and install files so the same corrupt errors are not in your registry.

You are correct that the content being present would not affect a subsequent install - I was only addressing the complete removal itself.


Cakewalk projects are by default in a different folder.  The content folder contains things like project templates, CAL scripts, sequencer patterns, and that sort of thing.  Removing this folder would not remove one's projects.


Bob Bone

vladasyn


Good morning everyone. The world was not over, the new day began some what late but I am up and alert. If you were talking about me, I am "she". I do have more than one soundcard. Delta 1010 and Phonic Helix 18 Fire Wire. ASIO only alows one sound card, the other driver (windows) allows many cards. All my Ins/Outs listed per track. Till recently, there was no soundcard with more than 8 channels. I have many keyboards, I resent to get up every time I need to use another module and plug the cables. I use all available channels, or should I say- everything has something plugged in to it. Many keyboards and other gear like Roland Fantom have USB audio/MIDI port on them. The DAW should be able to integrate all of them. One interesting thing I heard was that Fire Wire device should not be Recording Time master. I should change it back to Delta- PCI. Other than that- nothing wrong with my set up. It used to be able to do the work fine, till 8.5 version. Then it went to hell.

Are you saying that you are using two separate audio devices made by separate vendors simultaneously in sonar? 

I have two interfaces attached to my system but I use ASIO so I can only use one at a time. However I could in theory use the lightpipe connectors and use one as a basic pre device and the other as the actual sound device. That is a better option than not using ASIO as far as I know. I've never used the other driver modes because I was highly advised against it.

I've also gotta wonder when the last time vladasyn has updated her drivers... but I guess that's moot seeing as how she's still on XP.

That there is a major problem.

It really doesn't matter what gear or computer you have, Sonar should NEVER crash, this is bad programming. A program should be able to take whatever you throw at it, and keep going. If a plugin etc, is messing up, Sonar needs to work around it. This is basic programming 101, dealing with exceptions. Crashing isn't the answer. Yes this is more difficult in practice than in theory but it doesn't really matter.

The only way you would ever get that would be if Cakewalk required everyone to have the exact same hardware and operating system on their computers with a completely locked down image and that will never happen and no one would even want that. That still wouldn't guarantee no crashes because even dedicated standalone DAWs (hardware DAWs) crash and have to be restarted. 

The only way you would ever get that would be if Cakewalk required everyone to have the exact same hardware and operating system on their computers with a completely locked down image and that will never happen and no one would even want that.

Yanno... I've actually pondered before about Cakewalk commissioning ADK or StudioCat to build Sonar specific boxes that would ship with the perfect interface and the current version installed and tweaked out.

They could even make their own OS. 

It probably wouldn't make enough money to warrant the effort and that box would probably be mostly stuck in a specific point in tech history but man... that would be sweet. No problems, now worrying. Just plug into it and and have at 'er.

I do have 2 devices connected- Delta 1010 PCI and Phonix 18 FireWire. I have Phonic as master clock for audio and no International clock connection to delta, so they are not synchronized. I may have to change it back to Delta as FW is not recommended to be master clock for samples. I have latest (2008) driver for Phonic, and I don't think they updated the file- they abandoned that line of product. I have XP driver for Delta. Between 2009 and 2010 I had to rebuild the system from ground up, the motherboard, DVD player and 2 out of 3 SCSI 15,000 rpm hard drives were replaced, so hardware is all couple years old. I re-installed Windows XP SP3. It also has Logic Platinum on it and Nero DVD. And Norton 360.  

Norton? Switch to Microsoft Security Essentials. Also look up the Cakewalk System Optimization guide.