I've got a project in X1 Win 64 Sonar 64 with many unbounced V-Vocal clips and it doesn't crash

russ5ell


Wondering if anyone is having an issue with V Vocal crashing... every time I attempt export a track into V- Vocal it cause Sonar X1 to  crash... what do y'all think is going on?

I just fixed my V Vocal, which was crashing and producing the messages seen in this thread.  First, check to see if (on a 64-bit system) the files "cronus.dll", "VpEnc.dll", and "VPSoloDec.dll" exist in your "Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared DXi\VVocal" folder.  If any of these files is missing, there is your problem.  There should also be a Skin folder underneath the VVocal folder as well.  If the Skin folder is missing, VVocal will work (if the 3 files are present) but no GUI will appear.   
To fix the problem, you have to find copies of these three files and the Skin folder, although I'm not real sure how to tell you to do that (perhaps Cake support can make them available) ... I had them on another computer that I installed Sonar on where V Vocal just happened to be working, and just copied them over.  The files are probably on the install disk/dowload package, but darned if I know how to get to them.  Good luck!

V-Vocals crashes also in my system. Win 7, 64bit, Sonar X1

I was having V Vocal crash after I read in another thread about this kind of issue and I retested it after I had installed X2a Producer.  I ended up calling Cakewalk Support and learned there are some pretty well documented and fairly painless steps to do a complete uninstall and then reinstall of Sonar X2 ( and X2a). I did that whole process in less than an hour and V Vocal was fixed.  So that is a way and it worked well for me.  

The documented steps are in a Knowledgebase article for uninstall and reinstall Sonar.  

"First, check to see if (on a 64-bit system) the files "cronus.dll", "VpEnc.dll", and "VPSoloDec.dll" exist in your "Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared DXi\VVocal" folder. If any of these files is missing, there is your problem. There should also be a Skin folder underneath the VVocal folder as well." In my case, that is not the problem. The files exist, but Sonar crashes.

"... and learned there are some pretty well documented and fairly painless steps to do a complete uninstall and then reinstall of Sonar X2 ( and X2a)." Is it really necessary to do that? With the exception of V-Vocals, my version of Sonar X1 (Studio) works well. In general, I wonder, why everyone has to contact the technical support individually, although it seems to be a the same problem for many users, with a general solution...?

Windplayer, yes, yesterday I individually called Support and was advised the method they recommended was a reinstall of Sonar overall to clean up V Vocal crashes if they are occurring. I followed the instructions that weren't too painful and cleared up the issue.  I did hear from Support that folks had tried other means but that the full reinstall method was less troublesome and more sure fire.

I really wonder what could be different the second time around. Unless the uninstall doesn't wipe things completely and that has some beneficial effect.

V-Vocal has been prone to crashes on many systems since it was introduced.  Cake claimed to have made stability improvements in previous patches, but it has always remained unstable with my sytems (2). 

Other have mentioned, if you can get it to work, immediately bounce down when you finish the edit.  Then save!  Then continue.  I realize sometimes it will crash upon opening, in those cases, I have taken the offending track, inserted it in a new project and fixed it there. 

The tech support suggestions were not successful for me, and many others.  I assume they could never locate the instability problem that plagues many of us.  Some people are able to use it without issues, some options are:
1 - Get new pitch correction software (Melodyne/Waves/Autotune etc)
2 - Hope to have better luck on your next DAW build
3) - Have your singers sing better, or leave the slight pitch inaccuracies in, or
4)- Give up on the T-Pain cover