2016/06/02 12:15:22
Metaphasic
Dear fellow musicians, I have an unusual question.
 
When you listen to two guitarists play, you can usually tell who it is that is playing. For example, Eddie Van Halen vs Stevie Ray Vaughn. All the big names have a very distinctive style and sound, from which the very seldom stray. They may have a signature "clean" sound, and a signature "dirty" sound, with the occasional effect, but for the most part, their sound is fairly unique to them.
 
The very same could be said of bassists. You could probably tell the difference immediately between Geddy Lee and Jaco Pastorius, right? Once again, they stray very little from their basic sound, with the exception of effect selection.
 
Likewise, drummers are often known for this as well. Try listening to Neil Peart versus Phil Collins. Now, the drummer is typically limited to the pads in front of him, but even with a similar set, different drummers still maintain a unique feel to them.
 
I don't think anybody could argue this point regarding singers. One's voice is going to sound like one's voice. They are relatively unmistakable.
 
Then we have the keyboardist.
 
These poor folk seem to be left to fill in the gaps, and pigeon holed into backup roles. They often have several boards in front of them in order to play the various riffs a song needs. What is worse is that most songs today have such a varied palette of sounds in them. These are sounds that singers, drummers, bassists and guitarists just can not do, simply because of the physics of their instruments. The end result is that it is really difficult to identify a particular keyboardist simply by listening to a random piece of audio.
 
While it is true that an immensely gifted keyboardist may indeed become recognizable, simply through style alone, it would take a tremendous effort to accomplish. Even if one did this, they hardly get the accolades their bandmates get. In most cases, they and their boards are usually tucked away on one side of the stage, with the more mobile instruments out front.
 
This all really didn't occur to me until just recently, after switching from guitar to keyboards, due to personal physical reasons. Now that it has though, I have to wonder if keyboardists shouldn't also try to come up with their own unique "basic" sound? You know, that one sound they use in all their songs, even if other "effect" type sounds are used to spice things up?
 
Lot's of words Drew, but no question.
 
Right-o! On to the question.
 
Do we not deserve the right to become audibly identifiable? Is it wrong to want to be front runners in a band? Is it beyond belief that we might actually say "no" to being the jack-of-all-trades we are currently made out to be, or ask the other members of a band to diversify?
 
I am no singer, and am only a moderately talented song writer. I have seriously considered joining a band, so that all I have to focus on are my parts, letting the others invent their own parts for songs. But I hesitate because I do not want this stigma of being the backup, filler, swiss army knife musician.
 
Opinions?
2016/06/02 12:17:47
bapu
Dr. John, Keith Emmerson, Rick Wakeman and Elton John all sound alike?
2016/06/02 12:18:47
bapu
Ok, Norah Jones and Alicia Keys probably do sound alike.
2016/06/02 12:21:39
Metaphasic
Maybe, maybe not. But they have such a unique personal style, they can be identified, and I indicated that some WILL be like that. Mostly. But honestly, another person could be playing the parts, and if you didn't have video to back it up, you might not know it wasn't the original. Piano's sound like pianos, right? And by the way, I am not talking about piano's, but keyboards. You know, synths.
2016/06/02 12:24:13
Metaphasic
In other words, why do we have to do the horns, strings, and sound effects all the time. Why can't we have two or three variations of our favorite "analog saw wave" pad, and just use that. Something where, if a new unannounced song comes on the radio, somebody can hear the synth track and go, "oh damn, that sounds just like Drew!, oh wait...it is!" With the vast majority of songs today, one can not do that from synths alone.
 
[sorry for double post]
2016/06/02 12:26:13
Mesh
 
IMO, there's no mistaking Jon Lord's sound........
 
One way to avoid the stigma of being the backup, filler, Swiss army knife musician is to start a band that highlights the keyboardist with your very own signature keyboard sound?
2016/06/02 12:28:23
Metaphasic
That's kind of what I'm thinking of doing. The problem seems to be in that most other musicians (guitar, bass, drum) just seem to expect us to be that knife. How do we go about changing the overall expectations of keyboard players (non-piano)?
2016/06/02 12:40:20
Mesh
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Need back up musicians (guitar, drums, bass etc...) to backup frontman keyboardist/keyboard centered band.
2016/06/02 12:43:47
jamesg1213
I don't think I could tell one drummer from another just by listening to drums only. Maybe Stewart Copeland or Keith Moon. Not sure about bassists either, if I heard them out of context...Mick Karn maybe.
 
If you played me Elton John, Keith Emerson, Dr John and Jools Holland, each playing boogie-woogie piano, I couldn't tell you who was who.
 
Praps I'm stoopid...
2016/06/02 12:52:28
drewfx1
I disagree with your premise.
 
You cite extraordinary guitarists, bassists, drummers with distinctive styles and then reject keyboard players with the same qualities as exceptions.
 
I've heard lots of guitarists, bassists and drummers in my day that weren't particularly distinctive and I can name any number of distinctive keyboard players - including a number of band mates of other musicians you mentioned.
 
And if you're a bass player in a "conventional" band, trust me on this, no one wants you to play like Jaco or Geddy.
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