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2017/11/22 17:11:09
aidanodr
A post started over at the Facebook "Cakewalk Sonar User Group (CSUG)" .. on Studio One. A roadtest thread. Judging by replies it seems many were busy last night buying it already.
 
I think Gibson / Cakewalk need some how to come out with further statement rather than leave it hanging like this especially if there is an intention to sell Cakewalk, have it developed elsewhere. 
 
2017/11/22 17:14:34
space_cowboy
Thedoccal
There are thousands of Studio One tutorials on YouTube.  I watch two last night after struggling all day with S1 3.5 blind and I think it is a very interesting DAW.  I liked these guys alot:
Studio One Expert
https://www.youtube.com/c...K0pITrfzEC36x6ttyaXUXA


I too was perusing the countless SO3 videos.  There is a wealth of info to get started.  There are other resources as well.  
 
http://www.studio-one.expert/video-showcase/
https://www.groove3.com/Studio-One-training-video-tutorials
http://musiced.presonus.com/learning-center/tutorials/studio-one
https://www.lynda.com/Studio-One-training-tutorials/1563-0.html
 
(google search populated a full couple of pages so there are many more!)
 
2017/11/22 18:43:35
drewfx1
I'm currently looking at Live as something to run in parallel with Sonar.
 
My thinking is that since Sonar is in no known imminent danger of not functioning there's little upside to jumping to some other "same only different" platform that I will have to learn and will likely find less appealing than Sonar, which again, is still working fine. 
 
And if I switch now as a hedge against some point in the possibly distant future when Sonar won't run, how do I know that an alternative DAW I purchase today will still be in business then? 
 
IOW, what's the upside in switching now to a "same only different" DAW when Sonar is still good to go?
 
Instead, I'm looking at Live on the grounds that since it offers a different paradigm with different strengths I can run it in parallel, learn it and have it provide some tangible benefit while Sonar still runs fine.
 
After demoing it a bit last night, I can say it is currently sadly lacking in some areas we take for granted, so the jury is still out on whether it could be used as a competent traditional DAW replacement. But OTOH it does some other things very well, which is the whole point.
2017/11/22 19:19:12
Taurean Mixing
Cubase actually seems to be closest to Sonar. I'm talking function, plenty of the important ones, like metering, etc. I like it so far. 
2017/11/22 19:29:14
Sylvan
This feels like a divorce...an unwanted one. With a heavy heart full of sorrow and reluctance, I just purchased Presonus Studio One 3 Professional. I feel like I have a concubine, but I miss my wife...SONAR.
2017/11/22 19:55:05
javahut
Serious bummer, man. Been using Sonar since 2005... right after jumping off Pro Tools III due to the exorbitant cost of staying up to date. Tried Reaper a few years ago, when Sonar wasn't playing nice with Acustica Audio Nebula. But for the last 2 years or so, Sonar has been stellar with everything... possibly the best integration of Windows 10, multi-threading, and a DAW there is.
 
Reaper was okay. A little heavy on parameter set up. It just wasn't as 2nd nature as Sonar is to me. So when Sonar and Acustica got their problems sorted, I switched back to Sonar and never went back to Reaper.
 
So I think I'll probably start trying to get into Reaper again. The particular "no-go" thing for me with Reaper was... not being to set up your own custom VST menu. I absolutely hated the way you had to access plugins. I would hope they've changed that... but I suspect not. Everything else I could live with and actually kinda likes. Very light on PC resources, too.
 
Cubase also seems like an obvious choice... but doesn't the latest version of Cubase only support VST3 plugins... no support for VST2?
 
Looks like Reaper on the horizon for now, I think... since I already have a license.
 
On the plus side... switching to a new DAW could be a good way to spark some new creativity!... or stifle it. 
 
A new year... a new DAW!
2017/11/22 20:00:40
Joe_A
Sylvan
This feels like a divorce...an unwanted one. With a heavy heart full of sorrow and reluctance, I just purchased Presonus Studio One 3 Professional. I feel like I have a concubine, but I miss my wife...SONAR.

Please post when convenient for you how's it going....I may purchase S1Pro tonight.
2017/11/22 20:05:32
Joe_A
abacab
pwalpwal
there's only a small number of the plugs bundled with sonar that won't work in other daws, someone posted a checklist/screenshot in another thread already




The ones that quickly come to mind are the plugins bundled as a Cakewalk version from AAS, Nomad Factory, and Overloud.
 
Celemony Melodyne and XLN Addictive drums should be fine, as they are activated directly with an account that you redeem on their websites.
 
The Cakewalk instruments all seem to be portable.  As far as the Cakewalk effects go, I guess the Pro Channel is the biggest loss.  And oddly enough, the Adaptive Limiter seems to only be licensed for use in Sonar.  But the new LP-EQ and LP-MB seem to work fine elsewhere.


So LP-EQ and LP-MB are able to be used in Studio One Pro? I'm trying to see, as many are, what is/isn't "portable" in SPLAT suite..
2017/11/22 20:46:04
abacab
Joe_A
abacab
pwalpwal
there's only a small number of the plugs bundled with sonar that won't work in other daws, someone posted a checklist/screenshot in another thread already




The ones that quickly come to mind are the plugins bundled as a Cakewalk version from AAS, Nomad Factory, and Overloud.
 
Celemony Melodyne and XLN Addictive drums should be fine, as they are activated directly with an account that you redeem on their websites.
 
The Cakewalk instruments all seem to be portable.  As far as the Cakewalk effects go, I guess the Pro Channel is the biggest loss.  And oddly enough, the Adaptive Limiter seems to only be licensed for use in Sonar.  But the new LP-EQ and LP-MB seem to work fine elsewhere.


So LP-EQ and LP-MB are able to be used in Studio One Pro? I'm trying to see, as many are, what is/isn't "portable" in SPLAT suite..



I don't have Studio One Pro, but everything I listed should still apply to any other DAW.  I tested them in Tracktion Waveform.
2017/11/22 20:46:38
Sylvan
Joe_A
Sylvan
This feels like a divorce...an unwanted one. With a heavy heart full of sorrow and reluctance, I just purchased Presonus Studio One 3 Professional. I feel like I have a concubine, but I miss my wife...SONAR.

Please post when convenient for you how's it going....I may purchase S1Pro tonight.

Hi Joe,
 
I have tested the following in Presonus Studio One Professional...
CA2A
LPEQ
LPMB
Percussion Strip
Vocal Strip
Transient Shaper
Tube Leveler
and they all work.
 
Adaptive Limiter and Breverb do not work.
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