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2012/12/28 10:11:41
fwrend
Well, because I have the M-audio 2496 which doesn't allow "recording what you hear" I have my audio out routed through a little 4 channel mixer and back into the card.  This way I can use Pyro's editor to record what is playing.
2012/12/28 10:15:24
Beepster
Ah, okay. Just thought maybe it worked like I've been told Audacity does. Cheers.
2012/12/28 11:06:51
joakes
Beepster, Audacity needs a physical set up, it can only record "as you hear" ie from the web if the sound card has that facility.

Cheers,
Jerry
2012/12/28 11:10:23
Beepster
Oh... I had posted a thread and someone recommended it. I really wish my 18i6 had the loopback function the 8i6 does. Oh well. Thanks for the heads up. That'll save me from wasting time figuring it out the hard way. Cheers.
2012/12/28 12:30:20
DW_Mike
I have a version of Pyro. I never could get it to work. 
It always said I didn't have a CD/DVD drive/burner.
Funny because that's what I used to install the damn thing with.
After way too many hours with tech support and other avenues I finally gave up.
Of course Cakewalk wouldn't refund my $40 because it had been opened.
I believe it's Pyro 5 if anyone wants it just PM me and it's yours.
Best of luck but by far the worst software ever put out by Cakewalk.

I ate that loss and invested in CD Architect.
It may have cost a couple of bucks more but it's in a whole different league.

I wonder if Cake would consider sending me a check for that $20 Christmas gift and help me offset this over priced coaster I bought from them.  

Mike
 
2012/12/28 12:42:22
Beepster
I used to get that error on my old system ALL the time. I don't think I ever successfully burned a CD with the internal drive no matter what program I used and ended up buying an external USB burner. It was infuriating. I chalked it up to some kind of Windows or BIOS issue which I was not smart enough to figure out.
2012/12/28 12:50:27
AT
John,

the older pyro (5?) was a ripper/CD burner.  As I recall it had slip editing in the CD track and you could do fades etc.  Also track naming/numbering.  VST support was added and it came w/ basic Cake effects.  It was a good commercial product (I used to see it in Best Buy, etc.) and that is what I used it for.  The best thing was it had a quick song envelope so you could (kinda) match volumes which was important when I was burning home comps from albums, CD and mp3s.  SF was more involved for that.

Pyro AC is a multi-module "all in one""  comercial product and does more.  I've never figured out the editor part of it, not worth the time since I use SF for that process.  I've never really dealt w/ Publisher, which is the same in other Cake products I guess.  My website wants more money per month to do html inserts and I'm cheap - esp. when there are free sites I can link to.

The burner, encoder etc. work well, and the tagger is very nice if you have a "file" from vinyl you need to name - or your own stuff.  Worth it just for that, tho I don't know Nero etc. since I mostly use SF.  Pyro et al is just more convenient for non-pro work at times.

Also, I guess you need to have your interface running when installing.  My Pyros have always defaulted to the computer speakers instead of my interface and I never found a way to change that.  It might be different w/ AC but I don't have that on my music computer, only this internet/writing one which has nothing but the realtec card.

Whew!  that is a lot for a program I don't use that much.  I'm sure it is pretty good, but not up to SF (w/ all the cost differential there).  I've asked Cake several times to "Pro" Pyro and hook it up to SONAR for editing, etc.  However, they've never followed my advice.  Imagine that.  I also wanted Ford to make a flying car - not happening either.

;-)

@
2012/12/28 13:39:31
SteveStrummerUK
Beepster



4. Recording web stuff

How are you going about this? Does it snag the audio directly into the program or do you have to do some physical routing? Hadn't thought of it for this purpose. Cheers.

 
Beep, my Line 6 soundcard hasn't got a 'what you hear' setting for recording from the web.
 
If I want to download any audio (or video) from the web, my solution is to use Real Player. You just open 'New Web Browser' from within Real Player and then download directly. If, for example, the audio is part of a YouTube video, you download the video and then use Real Player's built in audio extractor/converter.
 
It's a bit fiddly, but as it's a download, it's much quicker than recording something in real time.
 
 
 
2012/12/28 13:50:47
Beepster
Cool, Steve. I actually looked at downloading a vid from youtube for the first time acouple weeks ago and couldn't find the option... then when I googled for an answer I saw a bunch of people freaking out about how they disabled that function. 

That would indeed be where I'd be getting most stuff from. Hope that wasn't permanent. If so I'll have to physically route things which sounds annoying.

However there are other places/things I'd like to snag stuff from so that's cool... within the law of course. ;-)
2012/12/28 14:03:17
scook
Another reason I use FDM.
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