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2016/05/09 09:25:18
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Just had a listen on the cans. I'm with Jeff that the mixes are too different to compare ... sonic character is so radically different that I cannot focus on subtleties. I'm torn between the mixes liking one element better here, another in the other mix...
 
Actually I tried something similar in the past few days while trying to get a grip on Mixbus 3.3. I did use only 5 tracks (1x lead vox, 1x piano, 3x back vox), which leaves a lot of space in between to listen deep. And I did limit myself to using the same reverbs in either DAW, then iteratively working either mix. Sonar first, Mixbus next. Bounce. A/B compare next day. Make notes. Work both mixes again ... currently about to start the 3rd iteration; about to do some more listening/making notes tonight ...
 
While I can't put these mixes out (as they originate from a rough demo tracking session of material that is not to be released for another half year), this is great learning experience.
 
Round #1 (due to inexperience with Mixbus) definitely ended 1:0 for Sonar (the first Mixbus mix couldn't keep up)
 
Round#2 had Mixbus to tie with Sonar. Mixes got closer together sonically, and I did start to like the Mixbus version ... and I had far fewer plugs in the Mixbus project ...
 
I did realize quite quickly that both DAWs will make you go different ways. So the workflow has an impact. Even if you have a vision that you work towards. Since raw tracks were just quick scratch tracks from a demo session, mic/preamp settings did not properly suit the voice.  Somehow Mixbus did a better job in smoothing out some of the harshness of the lead vocals, but in neither DAW I could polish the turd far enough ...
 
I'll definitely do a round #3 because I want to dig deeper in Mixbus ... and I'm not sure where it ends.  While Mixbus definitely has some nicely tuned EQ bands at hand, it may fall behind when automation gets into the picture (first automation attempts in Mixbus were neither stable nor really working that well) ...
2016/05/09 17:38:39
Zo
One thing for sure is that , since they modeled it , they will be very inspired to release their eq as an independant plugin for sale , instant buy here ...
2016/05/09 18:16:57
bapu
Zo,
 
UAD has a 32C plug. I've been using it for years.
2016/05/09 18:56:09
Zo
Hehe i know ;) but no way i go this way lol
2016/05/09 19:11:59
GerardMcNamara
Hey Bapu! Checked your "drop box" raw/mixbus/sonar tracks and at first I thought I liked the Mixbus version better...it seemed to be more cohesive? But then I read through your and everyone's comments and went back and listened to them again and I like the Sonar mix...The order that I listened to them kinda affected my reaction...The Mixbus mix is a fuller (slightly) bassier (is that a word?) feel with unique production et al...While the Sonar mix seems to have more sparkle, brighter drums too...Both stand well on their own...I would as said above like to hear "equal" versions (of any music) played on both systems to be able to get a basic comparison...and yes, performance was excellent! Thank-you 
2016/05/09 21:50:11
bapu
Thanks for all the listens.
 
Again, not to submit for "comparrison" on the DAW perse but for comparison on which mix you liked better I have updated the files using the same links in the OP.
 
Really I only made some subtle changes based on suggestions from the other contest participants on indaba.com.
 
2016/05/12 14:32:56
bapu
Man am I kind of tired of that song now.
 
There are over 600 submissions and growing each day. Although it was not my goal to listen to them all I listened to just enough of them to be bored with the song and even my mix now.
 
I have maybe listened to 30 mixes and I cannot even imagine how the judges (ostensibly only 2) can narrow it down to even the top 50 to start being critically listening for their "winners".
 
I suspect they would have to deploy a team of listeners to rule out the pure crap versions (I'll assume there must be at least 30% of the submissions that would be in that category, mine included). Even then that's over 500 mixes to listen to (assuming about 750 is the total submissions).
2016/05/13 08:25:23
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
bapu
There are over 600 submissions and growing each day. Although it was not my goal to listen to them all I listened to just enough of them to be bored with the song and even my mix now.
 
I have maybe listened to 30 mixes and I cannot even imagine how the judges (ostensibly only 2) can narrow it down to even the top 50 to start being critically listening for their "winners".




BOZ had a contest going last year where supposedly received 2000 mixes!
 
Like you I did listen to about 30 of them and got so sick of the song that I never bother to touch the mix again (not even listened to it anymore).
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