Paul P

scook


If you can hold out until February Scott Garrigus' "SONAR X2 Power!" will be out. It is being presold now. The Power series has been a great addition to the CW manuals.

I've been reading Scott's X1 book daily for the last two months.  It's a great intro for someone like me who has never used Sonar before but it leaves out a lot of detail (it is 1400 pages shorter than the manual).
 
If I had a tablet pc, I'd probably be happy.
 

The difference is that unlike that Manual, which is totally sterile & repetitive, Scott's books home in on the real application of the vast majority of the functions & processes inside Sonar. I don't think he misses much out

AND, I took advantage of being able to circle things in the book, and wrote copious notes in the margins, for the naughty bits (tweaks and such).

I do use the offline documentation more frequently than the online - easier for me to find things.

Anyways, that someone actually went through the tutorials AND is interested in READING, left me teared up and speechless.  You will learn SOOOO much in the process of doing what you are doing.  WELL worth the time.

Bob Bone

Remember the days when we used to get the boxed upgrade version along with a full printed user guide. I used leave the manual down on the floor beside the commode. You'd be amazed how much you can learn over a couple of months during your private time on the throne!
 
I've tried taking my laptop in there but I find it to be quite awkward...
 
JTW
 
 

>>I know that many will read this and just say "Duh, you're an idiot<< Well done mate, stick with it and it will reap rewards. Merry Christmas etc. C

Although I actually did the tuts (mostly) when I first bought X1 and have managed to complete a few projects I am about to go through them again in my new space. In fact I'm going to go through everything in the manual methodically if I can keep focused on it. Taking notes the whole way too.

Currently only at page 82 or something. Only a thousand or so more pages to go. lol

I also worked my way through a good chunk of X1 Power already but I want to be able to pull obscure info out of my bum when need be. 

Paul P


John writes :
 
"I use to wonder why no one seemed to sit back and read the manual. This wouldn't happen if it was a program that their livelihood relied on. Unfortunately it seems that it really doesn't matter what is the motivation;whether its a hobbyist or whether its used to make money too many people think its a simple program."
 
I'm new to Sonar and an avid manual reader.  I love reading manuals.  But X2's manual is not really all that accessible.  First off, there's no paper version that I'm aware of.  I'd gladly pay 100$ for a paper version (having a single copy printed would be what, 200$ or so ?).  Second, the manual is a single 2000 page pdf file.  The file is so big that the slightest movement of the scroll bar in Reader moves you back and forth by several pages, very frustrating.
 
I've taken to copying out pages I'm interested in, pasting them in Word and printing them from there.  I'll end up printing a large part of the manual, but at great cost.
 
Paper manuals can be read on the couch, lying in bed, waiting in a car, and other unmentionable places.  Books like Scott's are great introductions, but they leave out all the fine print.  When I bought X1 and the salesman in the store handed me this tiny little box it was a let down.  I was looking forward to reading the manual.
 

I can't disagree with you about real paper manuals. I do however think Scott's book when it comes out will prove very useful. I agree with Bristol's assessment of it as well. I also use an Andriod tablet with Kindle and the PDF reader on it to read books and manuals. 
I think the point is to read and understand X2 using whatever tools one can. The manual is the starting point.  
Fortunately as far as manuals go the CW X2 manual is a well written one. This is not often the case with many others.

The point I was trying to make is that Sonar is a very deep and powerful program with many hidden abilities. They are hidden to those that have never looked inside the manual.

A lot of the postings on this forum are due to the poster not doing their homework. When a poster has read the manual they may still get stuck but at least they will know the right terms to use in describing the problem. 

Because Sonar has gotten so complex I don't think any one of us knows it fully, yet because most of the long time posters do know where to look to find the answers we  are able to assist those that have not even bothered to read even the readme file that comes will every new and patched version.

I will say this I do commend those that do the right thing and put in the time to learn a very powerful program.

 

jtwinpcola

I used leave the manual down on the floor beside the commode.
You'd be amazed how much you can learn over a couple of months during your private time on the throne!   

Beepster

I also worked my way through a good chunk of X1 Power already but I want to be able to pull obscure info out of my bum when need be.  

 
Speaking of tutorials...
 
I just took advantage of the 20$ coupon Christmas present we just got from Cakewalk and bought :
 
 SWA Complete SONAR X2 Video (Download).  Since it was 19.95 I got it for free !
 
9 hours of tutorials, am I happy or what.
 
My hat is off to Cakewalk.  I'm very new to the community and I keep being impressed by their presence and interest.  I had a problem for which I contacted them a couple of days ago and they solved my problem today.  I wasn't even expecting contact during the holiday period.  Come on guys, take a couple of days off, you've earned them !
 
 

Paul P

 
I'm new to Sonar and an avid manual reader.  I love reading manuals.  But X2's manual is not really all that accessible.  First off, there's no paper version that I'm aware of.  I'd gladly pay 100$ for a paper version (having a single copy printed would be what, 200$ or so ?). 
 

You could buy a basic Kindle ($89) or Nook ($79) that will work with the PDF file. Even dedicate it just for the Sonar manual if you like although with bookmarks there is no reason to.