• SONAR
  • Plugin Limit reached (p.2)
2012/12/23 12:28:13
bapu

I have 15 unique 32bit VSTs that 64bit SONAR scans for.
I have ~370 unique VSTs in my non-Cakewalk vstplugins folder. 
I have 25 in Cakewlaks shared plugins folder.
I have 17 VSTs in the Cakewalk vstplugins folder.
If I look at Waves' Plug-In folder I see that I have 129 listed items, but if you dig further, under each plug folder there are 3 dlls each. If all three count, that amounts to 372.
No softsynths were counted.
So, I either have

370 + 25 + 17 + 372  + 15 = 789 VSTs


or

370 + 25 + 17 + 129 + 15 = 646 VSTs


I suspect it's the latter, if so that means I can get ~90 more VSTs. Woot Woot!!!!
2012/12/23 16:33:55
TheSteven
bapu


I have 15 unique 32bit VSTs that 64bit SONAR scans for.
I have ~370 unique VSTs in my non-Cakewalk vstplugins folder. 
I have 25 in Cakewlaks shared plugins folder.
I have 17 VSTs in the Cakewalk vstplugins folder.
If I look at Waves' Plug-In folder I see that I have 129 listed items, but if you dig further, under each plug folder there are 3 dlls each. If all three count, that amounts to 372.
No softsynths were counted.
So, I either have

370 + 25 + 17 + 372  + 15 = 789 VSTs


or

370 + 25 + 17 + 129 + 15 = 646 VSTs


I suspect it's the latter, if so that means I can get ~90 more VSTs. Woot Woot!!!!





And what about DX plugs?  It's not an FX VST count, it's an FX plug-in count.
#FX = DX + VST
#Inst = DXi + VSTi


Also bear in mind that you can't just count the files for DX plug-ins because a single file can act as several different individually registered plug-ins. For example Cakewalk's Expander/Gate, Limiter, Compressor/Gate and Dynamics Processor are registered as 4 separate plug-ins but all use the same file DynamicsProcessor.ax.


You need to use Cakewalks's Plug-in Manager or a third party tool to get an accurate count.





2012/12/23 20:33:24
bapu
TheSteven


And what about DX plugs?  It's not an FX VST count, it's an FX plug-in count.
#FX = DX + VST
#Inst = DXi + VSTi 
Just looked in CW P-I Manager


734 is my #FX (37 DX + 697 VST)
2012/12/24 09:33:54
Guitarhacker
I've never hit the limit. 

I don't even think I have very many plugs.  

I can't imagine a project with the max number of plugs.... wow... I'm thinking that most computers will choke well before that limit is hit. 

I use plugs in the buss to reduce the number needed in my projects....

I'm also thinking "less is more" when it comes to plugs and such things... but that's just me.....
2012/12/24 12:17:27
bitflipper
I hit the limit years ago and have had a self-imposed policy ever since of only adding a new one after first removing an old one. 

This has actually been a good thing. Limiting the number of plugins is not a hardship; it actually helps to work with a smaller number of plugins that I know very well. Herb's right on the money with "less is more". My core arsenal consists of perhaps 50 plugins, and I could actually make do with fewer than that. 
 
Removed plugins are copied into a folder that's outside the scan path. If I ever do need to reinstate one of them to work on some old project, I know where they are.


2012/12/24 12:24:19
bapu
A number of people have indirectly slammed me in the past for owning so/too many plugs saying it is pointless.

For the record I will state, once again, that I thought that buying all the big player plugs would be for compatibility with others (if need be).  It could be argued (sucessfuly) that I will never have the time to learn in detail all 734 plugs I have. But then I'll probably never have the time to learn all of X2 Producer either, but I still own it.
2012/12/24 12:33:41
jm24

some of the plug ins, all of the time

never all of the plug ins, all of the time

2012/12/24 16:02:23
bapu

@TheSteven

OK, I just happen to have to have 9 32bit FXs I do not normally load up in 64bit X2 (in a separate path like bitflipper does). When I added them to the scan list the CW Plug In Manager shows I have 736 VST + DX fx's. 
No message about too many plugs.



2012/12/24 16:38:43
John
I could be wrong but I don't think Sonar has a limit on how many plugins one can have. I do think there is a limit on how many can be displayed in the menu though. I believe this is a Windows limitation on how many objects can be in a menu.

If you read the dialog it doesn't say you have too many plugins. It says that you have too many to be displayed and some will not be displayed.

I don't think the browser has this issue.  
2012/12/24 17:38:30
TheSteven
bapu


@TheSteven

OK, I just happen to have to have 9 32bit FXs I do not normally load up in 64bit X2 (in a separate path like bitflipper does). When I added them to the scan list the CW Plug In Manager shows I have 736 VST + DX fx's. 
No message about too many plugs.

With instrument plug-ins the  'too many' message is pretty consistent, not so with FX plug-ins.
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