synkrotron

vintagevibe

Shinyhead

Again not sure why such fixation about Sibelius and Avid. You keep insinuating that somebody is asking for Sibelius-like functionality built into SONAR. Just to clarify - nobody is asking for that. It's been said countless times. Since I mentioned it on the very first page of this tread, I thought it could be instructive for some to refer to these videos to try to get a flavor for what (at least) I would like to see CW implement:

This is an endless loop of ignorance.   I even emailed one of the moderators about notation and the reply was that you might see incremental improvements but Sonar will never be like Sibelius.  Just shoot me!  If even they don't get this there is no hope.  Don't expect them to chime in.  They avoid this subject like the plague because they nothing is going to happen.

I don't know why I even bother looking in here any more, not since the last load of trouble I got into, but the above post by vintagevibe is a total misquote. Is that even allowed in here?


I am particularly perturbed that parts of my posts are being re-quoted, even after I have tried to explain where I was coming from in those posts. But, yeah, that's the internet for you, and I should know better. There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that, in future, I shall be keeping my opinions to myself, asked or not.


I will continue to try an offer help to others, where I am able, but that is all.


regards


andy

I agreed with you.  What is the problem?

sergiobklyn


I don't want to get my hopes high, but under the Deliver element in this page http://www.cakewalk.com/SONAR-X2/ there's "Print Notation".  It leads me to believe that there are some notation improvements if they are listing this as a feature in X2.
Finger crossed,
Sergio

I thought the same thing.  Check post 149.
 
And yet, for me, it isn't so much about printing notation as it is about inputting and editing.

pbognar

sergiobklyn


I don't want to get my hopes high, but under the Deliver element in this page http://www.cakewalk.com/SONAR-X2/ there's "Print Notation".  It leads me to believe that there are some notation improvements if they are listing this as a feature in X2.
Finger crossed,
Sergio

I thought the same thing.  Check post 149.
 
And yet, for me, it isn't so much about printing notation as it is about inputting and editing.

If I remember correctly and I may not the print notation was broken in X1d. So my hopes are not up.

vintagevibe
 
This is an endless loop of ignorance.   I even emailed one of the moderators about notation and the reply was that you might see incremental improvements but Sonar will never be like Sibelius.  Just shoot me!  If even they don't get this there is no hope.  Don't expect them to chime in.  They avoid this subject like the plague because they nothing is going to happen.  
  
  
    To quote part of my previous post (#116)

"I went to one of those "meet a rep" events and spoke with a Cake employee. I pointed out to him, "if Cake improved their notation, they could market Sonar to the ever increasing, "composer" crowd. Currently, it would seem Logic and Cubase has much of that "crowd"." The Cake rep explained that was "not their target audience."
 
I took that as "end of story" on the subject. I don't think Cake employees are going to "chime in" because they already made a business decision on the subject, and are sticking with it. There is nothing new to say that hasn't been said, in several past notation threads. They sure would like it to be better, but they are not going to allocate resources towards it at this time......


 

I have read music since I was about 7 and have no need for it within Sonar. My 2 cents.

I'm using X1 and Garritan Jazz Band for wind instruments arrangement. I use midi tracks for recording, editing them on PRV as required.

While I don't use SV for any note entry, I will check on SV very often as the arrangement develops. At the end of the process, I like the simplicity of printing score directly from X1 and hand over to my band for rehearsal.

So for me, SV is very important and I like to see SV updates in future releases. There are well known limits, and I do my best to submit feature request, more than once, as I may have forgotten what I've submitted - until it's updated, hopefully.

rabeach

pbognar

sergiobklyn


I don't want to get my hopes high, but under the Deliver element in this page http://www.cakewalk.com/SONAR-X2/ there's "Print Notation".  It leads me to believe that there are some notation improvements if they are listing this as a feature in X2.
Finger crossed,
Sergio

I thought the same thing.  Check post 149.

And yet, for me, it isn't so much about printing notation as it is about inputting and editing.

If I remember correctly and I may not the print notation was broken in X1d. So my hopes are not up.

My DAW is not connected to a printer, so I have it print to PDF, and it works. Never tried to print directly.

LpMike75

vintagevibe
 
This is an endless loop of ignorance.   I even emailed one of the moderators about notation and the reply was that you might see incremental improvements but Sonar will never be like Sibelius.  Just shoot me!  If even they don't get this there is no hope.  Don't expect them to chime in.  They avoid this subject like the plague because they nothing is going to happen.  
  
  
    To quote part of my previous post (#116)

"I went to one of those "meet a rep" events and spoke with a Cake employee. I pointed out to him, "if Cake improved their notation, they could market Sonar to the ever increasing, "composer" crowd. Currently, it would seem Logic and Cubase has much of that "crowd"." The Cake rep explained that was "not their target audience."
 
I took that as "end of story" on the subject. I don't think Cake employees are going to "chime in" because they already made a business decision on the subject, and are sticking with it. There is nothing new to say that hasn't been said, in several past notation threads. They sure would like it to be better, but they are not going to allocate resources towards it at this time......


 

Mike,
 
I had read your post previously, absolutely great feedback, thanks much for sharing.
 
My interpretation is that if your perception of the issue were to be right on, which I get the unfortunate feeling there is a very good likelyhood it will be, this would be a sign CW will have absolutely no intention or interest in developing SV beyond it being an atrophic uncompetitive tool part of SONAR. This would also be the end of an era for me. And I'm concious I made a decision to roll the dice with 8, then 8.5 and X1, in hope to see some progression. But there is no point in continuing investing in the wrong place. I'm also well aware I may be part of a very small minority.
 
I remain watchful and even hopeful, for the next 20 more days.

The ONLY thing I use Staff View for is for scanning to see if there are any doubled Midi notes as they are plainly visible (being either side of the stalk) and easily delete-able from within the same view.