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2012/08/03 12:33:11
Dave Modisette
I'm hoping for a plugin that will analyze and print out the score for "The Rite of Spring" from a two track MP3.

No mention of Staff view but there are more features to be unfurled later this month.
2012/08/03 18:30:13
thebiglongy
Perhaps you should get a petition on the forum lol. Get all members to agree NOT to upgrade until they give clear information on what if anything is happening with the Notation abilities of Sonar. It's not as if this is a new issue, I've watched this come up over and over again yet nothing done, a little show of solidarity for those who compose using notation wouldn't go a miss. I for one, will happily hold out to support those who need notation (don't use it myself).
2012/08/03 18:40:29
ptheisen
As a show of solidarity, I'll add my $.02 that I would also like to see the staff view improved. Gusfmm, I think you described what most of us are looking for perfectly, hopefully no one could blame us for wanting just that.
2012/08/03 18:42:12
synkrotron
2012/08/03 18:44:13
Guitarpima
There haven't been improvements since forever it seems and it is not likely to change. Actually I like how the SV works for the most part but don't like that you can't use better subdivisions of note values.

I use Finale to write out my stuff when the SV proves inadaquate.
2012/08/03 19:05:16
chuckebaby
there you go finale is one that i would suggest as well.
i just dont think there is enough of an audience for it,no shame on me im sorry,but there have been only 15 posts in 24 hrs and a handfull of people asking for it.2 of those posts are mine and have no use for it.i do all my editing in the prv or the old fashon way like the musicians used to...live !!!

i just dont see cake putting in the effort to promote something of a dying breed.
like i said,im sorry.
i could be wrong,maybe in the future we will see great improvments.
i hope so for you guys.
2012/08/03 19:24:49
AT
I would think it has to do w/ ecomonics.  Cakewalk started out as a midi squencer, then added audio,  then other means of "inputting" sound. 

I doubt if 10% of SONAR users extensively use notation, who have stuck w/ SONAR up to now.  I imagine if someone really needs notation they have a notation program (that costs as much as SONAR itself).  Cake  did make XML (is that right?) exportable in X1.  With such a small base, it hardly warrents spending money to expand notation that most likely won't lead to further sales.

Sorry, that is the way it is.  If Cake thought they could make money expanding notation, they would do it.  They haven't, ergo.

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2012/08/03 19:25:04
Beepster
IDK, chuck. I see this come up all the time and although it's not a factor in my continued usage of Sonar stuff it would be something extremely useful to myself and really any traditionally trained musician (not that I am one but I am slowly learning all that stuff). I'd actually like to see full notation orchestral scoring/MIDI capabilities. Obviously that is huge but I'll keep saying it (not that anyone at Cake will listen to the rantings of a crazy n00b) it can be an add on... IT CAN BE AN ADD ON... IT CAN BE A PAID ADD ON!!! I kind of envision this. Contract a third party company more used to notation scoring to design it. Make it fully integrated with X1 so we can score and then easily apply any of our synths to the notes (like it does now but a little smoother and maybe have menus IN the actual SV that dictate what synth controls which staff... like a browser). Then they could charge different price points for different levels of complexity. ie: Included version is simple Treble and Bass clef and piano staff and some guitar and bass functions similar to what we have now (except fix the darned guitar chord thing... it sucks). The next version up would be for putting together band arrangements up to same 8-12 instruments. The next version up would be for full orchestral type scoring. Make it dockable and as I said fully integrated with an easy way to apply synths (like Dim Pro) directly to each staff/part. There should be a little window to get to the browser in there. Frack man... they could make a fortune and turn Sonar into the go to for TRUE music dorks.
2012/08/03 19:34:03
Beepster
And the idea would be "instant orchestra". I think it, I toss it on the staff, my computer plays it. It'd be like Beethoven sitting down with a full orchestra (and way way more with the nature of VSTs) in his living room and as soon as his pen hits the paper the musicians can play the part. No screwing around. You write it. Pick an instrument and KAPLOW... it's done. THAT is what I, personally, want.
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