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2012/08/22 23:36:55
Jimbo 88
trimph1


On the X2 teaser page..we have this....

Flexible export options
NEW! Integrated SoundCloud
NEW! MusicXML export
Export Video
Cakewalk Publisher
Print Notation



If you look at the very bottom of the page mentioned you will notice the Official X2 Preview Page notification...and I found this comment...Print Notation under the Deliver Icon..hover the mouse over it....
Yes,  not exactly what i was looking/hoping for,  but there is some hope Staff View gets better here!
 
2012/08/23 04:41:35
Elffin
I have to agree with JSG here... Cakewalk doesn't appear to be listening...

Funny how Cake personnel all appear in a number of threads except for SV one's. Version after version people send their feature requests.
People waste time and energy  arguing/discussing it here.

DAW 2.00 modern look with 1990s SV. 

I might be getting bitter here.. But I've showed patience, loyalty to cake products, courtesy when making requests.

Can someone from Cakewalk just confirm any improvements?? 
2012/08/23 12:08:32
pbognar
Jimbo 88


New features in SONAR X2 Producer include:
  • New enhancements and improvements
  • MusicXML export
  • And much more
Kinda funny the list says "New enhancements and improvements"...that is a given and poor writing,    but not funny cause it does not say Staff View. 

MusicXML export already exists (but does not work 100%). 
 
Perhaps staff view is included in the  "And much more"

Staff view can not be that hard to upgrade....


I sure hope Staff View improvements are included in the "And much more".  
In the Smart Grid blog, and thread, it seems like they went out of their way to imply that the Smart Grid only works in the Track View and Piano Roll View, and there was no reply to my question regarding its functionality in the Staff View.
 
I don't know if I can stand much more teasing and waiting for sneak previews, in hopes of finding some love for the Staff View in X2.
 
Perhaps I am just an idiot for thinking there were going to be any improvements since 8.5.2.  I am now to the the point where if the functionality which existed in version 7 (as JSG pointed out) is restored, and everything which was subsequently broken is fixed, and the Smart Grid improvements apply to SV, it may be enough for the time being.
 
I get the feeling that the handling of tuplets and rests will never be addressed, which is really a shame. 
 
I can't believe a company like Roland doesn't have the resources to buy an extensible staff editor code base from SOMEWHERE to retrofit into Sonar.  I mean really, give me a break. 
2012/08/23 12:16:17
vintagevibe
Elffin


I have to agree with JSG here... Cakewalk doesn't appear to be listening...

Funny how Cake personnel all appear in a number of threads except for SV one's. Version after version people send their feature requests.
People waste time and energy  arguing/discussing it here.

DAW 2.00 modern look with 1990s SV. 

I might be getting bitter here.. But I've showed patience, loyalty to cake products, courtesy when making requests.

Can someone from Cakewalk just confirm any improvements?? 

They won't chime in here.  They have nothing to say and will just get hammered.   Sadly Staff View is not on their agenda.
2012/08/24 00:13:19
pbognar
vintagevibe


Elffin


I have to agree with JSG here... Cakewalk doesn't appear to be listening...

Funny how Cake personnel all appear in a number of threads except for SV one's. Version after version people send their feature requests.
People waste time and energy  arguing/discussing it here.

DAW 2.00 modern look with 1990s SV. 

I might be getting bitter here.. But I've showed patience, loyalty to cake products, courtesy when making requests.

Can someone from Cakewalk just confirm any improvements?? 

They won't chime in here.  They have nothing to say and will just get hammered.   Sadly Staff View is not on their agenda.

For the love of Mike, the least they could do is fix what has been broken along the way, and also provide a separate snap value for SV.
2012/08/24 00:36:10
sharke
I agree, if there were to be even minor enhancements in the SV in X2 then someone from Cakewalk would have added their $0.02 to this thread by now. Even just to say "we've fixed the SV bugs that people have been complaining about." But they haven't even said that. 
2012/08/26 09:46:17
Gusfmm
Farewell my friends, au revoir.
2012/08/31 18:43:30
sergiobklyn
Why is it that Seth is replying to so many messages but yet remains silent about notation?
2012/08/31 18:55:00
stevec
Perhaps his position at CW has no connection whatsoever with that area of the app.
 
 
2012/08/31 19:24:23
vintagevibe
sergiobklyn


Why is it that Seth is replying to so many messages but yet remains silent about notation?

Because he's been down this road many times before.  Notation will never be enhanced.  He has nothing more to say and doesn't want to even get involved.  I've been asking for notation updates for 15 years.   Even though almost every major competitor has far superior (actually usable) notation Cakewalk has decided it's not important.  I've given up asking.  
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