• SONAR
  • Sonar X2 Notation (p.30)
2012/08/31 20:36:30
keith
I've just submitted a feature request to rename "Staff View" to "Naff View". It's the least they could do.
2012/08/31 20:59:29
vicsant
It should be quite obvious by now that the Bakers don't use notation, although I'm sure they can read and write in musical notation :(
2012/09/01 06:25:30
mudgel
Music XML Export is a current SONAR Producer feature (perhaps part of Expanded) and Print Notation has been part of SONAR for as long as it has had a Staff View.

I too would like to see that at the very least, what has become broken in recent versions (more and more things with each subsequent version since SONAR 7 I think) be fixed - but I don't hold out any hope for that.

As to the notion that there is a huge demand for Staff view improvements; I think it is an exaggeration. The most I"ve ever counted in a thread was a total of 39 different contributors. that post went for scores of pages with lots of feeling and rhetoric but the numbers just aren't there.

I dare say that staff view inprovements are not on Cakewalk's radar let alone on the radar of the average SONAR user. that doesn't mean that a bunch of us don't wnat it - the numbers just aren't big enough. IMHO
2012/09/01 15:11:10
pbognar
mudgel


Music XML Export is a current SONAR Producer feature (perhaps part of Expanded) and Print Notation has been part of SONAR for as long as it has had a Staff View.

I too would like to see that at the very least, what has become broken in recent versions (more and more things with each subsequent version since SONAR 7 I think) be fixed - but I don't hold out any hope for that.

As to the notion that there is a huge demand for Staff view improvements; I think it is an exaggeration. The most I"ve ever counted in a thread was a total of 39 different contributors. that post went for scores of pages with lots of feeling and rhetoric but the numbers just aren't there.

I dare say that staff view inprovements are not on Cakewalk's radar let alone on the radar of the average SONAR user. that doesn't mean that a bunch of us don't wnat it - the numbers just aren't big enough. IMHO

The bakers have certainly gone out of their way to not comment on X2 SV fixes/improvements/changes.


Though, I have a hard time believing that SV functionality which has been incrementally broken with each new release since version 7 is not going to be addressed in X2.  If this is the case, it would send a clear message to SV users, and after all this time, I think users can finally determine their next course of action.

It may well be that there is a vocal minority of those who want, at the very least, to have original SV functionality back, but you cannot discount the fact that this thread has been viewed almost 8000 times.


   


2012/09/01 15:32:15
riojazz
If I recall correctly, the last comment by a Cakewalk employee was to the effect that the staff view code was ancient and difficult to mess with. It wasn't a question of tweaking; a complete re-write was required. They made the decision not to commit resources to it. Of course, this discussion took place way back with SONAR 7 or 8 something. It also does not explain why Staff View is getting worse. Looking at the other new features, I have no reason to upgrade to X2 unless Staff View is improved.
2012/09/01 19:33:50
Elffin
It doesnt matter how many people who have made requests, viewed or posted.

If a business only responds to its core customers it will never grow.
Studio 1 / reaper have eaten into the 'cake' core share of the market..,
How many companies have gone under not responding to their customers needs and requirements??

Question is have cakewalk become ignorant to these requests?? How many customers request does if take to respond? 





2012/09/01 21:55:10
Jimbo 88
I have to ask also,  why do people asking for staff view improvements get attacked and told to quit whining while  no one says anything to those asking for color customization???  
2012/09/02 03:04:24
Brett
Jimbo 88


I have to ask also,  why do people asking for staff view improvements get attacked and told to quit whining while  no one says anything to those asking for color customization???  



Some people who can't read music think we're snobs or elitist. 




2012/09/02 08:08:32
Bill51
Is Music XML export only, or will we be able to import also?
2012/09/02 08:58:34
ducatibruce2
Jimbo 88


I have to ask also,  why do people asking for staff view improvements get attacked and told to quit whining while  no one says anything to those asking for color customization???  


Maybe we should ask for colour customisation in SV eg I'd like to be able to make triplets show up as a different colour ;)
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