sergiobklyn


Hi,
I could not find any mention of notation improvement in Sonar X2.  Does anybody know if there are any changes in the notation engine?
Thanks,
Sergio  

I will not be upgrading to X2 unless we can at the very least have the staff view restored to having the notation functions found in pre X1 Sonar.  Thankfully, Sonar Plus did that for X1 and I was able to use it because of that.  However, now that Benstat works for Cakewalk Sonar Plus will not be available as a second party program. I can only hope that Cakewalk will use his talents in this area.  In repsonse to those who say only a few people want staff view improvements one has only to look at how many people have read this thread. 

sergiobklyn


Hi,
I could not find any mention of notation improvement in Sonar X2.  Does anybody know if there are any changes in the notation engine?
Thanks,
Sergio  

I will not be upgrading to X2 unless we can at the very least have the staff view restored to having the notation functions found in pre X1 Sonar.  Thankfully, Sonar Plus did that for X1 and I was able to use it because of that.  However, now that Benstat works for Cakewalk Sonar Plus will not be available as a second party program. I can only hope that Cakewalk will use his talents in this area.  In repsonse to those who say only a few people want staff view improvements one has only to look at how many people have read this thread. 

ducatibruce2

Jimbo 88


I have to ask also,  why do people asking for staff view improvements get attacked and told to quit whining while  no one says anything to those asking for color customization???  

Maybe we should ask for colour customisation in SV eg I'd like to be able to make triplets show up as a different colour ;)

Bill51


Is Music XML export only, or will we be able to import also?

Export only  - which is useless if SV is not good enough to use in the first place.

  Just a response to Brett. Protools 10 (the version which runs natively) has a 32 bit floating point sound engine, sorry mate but you're totally wrong there, get your facts right before dissing someone elses product. And it's not a piece of crap, just because you can't figure out how to use it? I've put PT 10 side by side with Sonar X1 and compared the sound engines at 32 bit floating point while recording and rendering the same material, and there is NO discernable difference in sound quality between the two DAWS, they both sound exactly the same. I did the tests using top of the line AD converters and mics, like Mytek AD / Beezneez hand made mics going into an RME PCIe card through the AES interface. I recorded a martin D16 acoustic guitar in an acoustically treated studio. No matter how I compared the samples from the recordings between the 2 DAWS, they sounded identical. Where do people get their facts from, the inside of a public lavatory wall? Always wonder about some of the disinformation being spread on this forum.

Bluexrysalis


  Just a response to Brett. Protools 10 (the version which runs natively) has a 32 bit floating point sound engine, sorry mate but you're totally wrong there, get your facts right before dissing someone elses product. And it's not a piece of crap, just because you can't figure out how to use it? I've put PT 10 side by side with Sonar X1 and compared the sound engines at 32 bit floating point while recording and rendering the same material, and there is NO discernable difference in sound quality between the two DAWS, they both sound exactly the same. I did the tests using top of the line AD converters and mics, like Mytek AD / Beezneez hand made mics going into an RME PCIe card through the AES interface. I recorded a martin D16 acoustic guitar in an acoustically treated studio. No matter how I compared the samples from the recordings between the 2 DAWS, they sounded identical. Where do people get their facts from, the inside of a public lavatory wall? Always wonder about some of the disinformation being spread on this forum.

You've been using PT for 2 months and you're suddenly an expert? Well, I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about and I doubt you'll make the effort to "get your facts right".

Maybe someone who hasn't been insulted by you may deign to explain the PT fixed point issues to you, but not me.

I guess that doing some change on the staff view will interact with the other view like Piano roll and event list etc...That must be the reason to let that the way it is.  I will give a try with the XML thing to export in my FINALE program, when I'll upgrade to X2

Now that this thread has been ongoing for a while I'm gonna bring the idea of a paid notation add on that integrates into Sonar again. That really might be something that could get the company moving on it so if more people bandy the idea about maybe it will become a reality. To put it another way if they are going to LOSE money updating the SV maybe a paid tool could make them some money or at least allow them to break even and keep folks using Sonar and/or draw in new customers. As I said it would be something I'd be interesting in paying for because I'm really hammering out my traditional music theory and having a stable and in depth tool within my DAW would help with that. Many others also expressed they would be into it too so yeah... let's keep that discussion open.

Beepster, I can't even emphasize how much I agree with you so I'll just give it a good old +1

@ProjectM... You and I seem rather like minded individuals. It's always a pleasure chatting with you. The nice thing about this plan is they could charge for it until everything is coded and future ready and then just toss it into future versions for free after they've paid off the initial cost. It seems many people here have the opinion that the reason there aren't more people complaining about the staff view is that those people have either left Sonar or never hopped on board in the first place because of the SV. Cakewalk just might swell the Sonar ranks if they fix it because really it is an awesome program for the price. Cheers.