I suggest a prepay plan for the notation. $25.00 through your Cakewalk account seems fair. This money only goes toward developing the staff view of Sonar. This way they could also sell it as an expansion pack when it is ready for more money and then it could be integrated in the next Sonar release say X3. I'd send over the money tonight if they did it. If there isn't enough takers after a certain period of time just leave the money in my account to use for something else. I would will be willing to give it a shot. Come on Cakewalk how about a response. What do you have to lose? Ed

Another idea for a better staff view: to wit, Cakewalk publishes an application program interface (API) into Sonar and lets 3rd party developers build a better staff view. While they're at it, 3rd parties could engineer a new script engine and add other UI features that we don't even know we desperately need (until we see them in action). I'll bet some of those 3rd party developers are members of this forum. (Heck, I had my own custom macro interface hack communicating with a version of Pro Audio many moons ago.)

CW has already opened up the ProChannel API to 3rd parties, enticing them to write PC-friendly plugins. And of course, there are all sorts of supported hooks for hardware interfaces, so a set of hooks into the Staff View for custom apps doesn't seem so far-fetched to me. (Of course, a fully-functional SV doesn't seem far-fetched to me either, so shows what I know....)

So, four strategic-direction suggestions so far for Cakewalk:
1) (Current) CW repeats its intention to do something about SV someday.

2) CW "enhances" staff view as part of the Sonar package, to make it as effective for note manipulation as piano roll view.

3) CW sells an add-on SV module (call it Sonar Staffworthy Edition). I'm buying (as are others in this thread).

4) CW publishes a set of hooks into Track view for 3rd parties to add other views, staff included, or widgets or "apps" or whatamacallems.

5) (Ooops, over my limit.) Okay, wild and crazy, but maybe CW open-sources the Staff View code and lets users have at it. Lots of dots to connect here, but this is a dream thread, right?

any updates shown in the webinar?

Elffin


any updates shown in the webinar?

None.  They briefly viewed some notes in Staff View but there was no mention of improvements.  I asked twice about it but got no reply
 

I went ahead and did the Pre-Sale anyways.  The new stuff looks pretty cool.

hmmm.. not even a proper screenshot eh...

BTw guys -  I love the idea of paying for SV improvements.... go get some of the Sibelius guys here in the UK who were laid off by Avid.

Elffin


hmmm.. not even a proper screenshot eh...

BTw guys -  I love the idea of paying for SV improvements.... go get some of the Sibelius guys here in the UK who were laid off by Avid.

I'll have to wait for the webinar to be available on youtube - If they showed the SV for even a moment, we should at least be able to see if they incorporated any of Benstat's Sonar Plus improvements.

sergiobklyn


I went ahead and did the Pre-Sale anyways.  The new stuff looks pretty cool.

TRRAAAAIIITORRRRR!!!!!!!!

I would pay some dollars for a staff view expansion. Not that many dollars though. I'm figuring about fifty of dollars max, but preferably less. I'm pretty sure Cakewalk could profit from it. I think it would be fair to charge for a decent staff view because Sonar gives you so much more bang for your buck than other DAW's anyway.

keith

sergiobklyn


I went ahead and did the Pre-Sale anyways.  The new stuff looks pretty cool.

TRRAAAAIIITORRRRR!!!!!!!!

I'm struggling with this.
 
I have not seen the webinar, nor do I expect to see the X2 SV in action anytime soon.
 
X2 would have to be outrageously good (features which don't exist in other DAW's) in order for me to upgrade if there were no attention paid to the SV.
 
The rub is weighing a functional SV against the new features of X2.
 
The importance of the SV on the spectrum of DAW features determines which direction each individual goes.
 
All this is obvious.  But if SV IS IMPORTANT, then holding off on the upgrade allows you to vote with your $$$ or lack thereof.