@synkrotron... Hi there. I didn't mistake your statements as ragging on "bedroom" producers. Quite the opposite actually. When that fellow in the other thread started blathering about that I found it very condescending and it bothered me that you would take his narrow minded views and apply them to yourself. I was gonna make a comment to him but I figured it wasn't worth it because his statements were hyperbolic, reactionary and irrational. So yeah, don't let dudes like that define who and what you are as a musician. That was outright pompousness. As far as doing what you'd like to in staff view I believe that is what some of the hubbub is about. It is NOT as capable as PRV for those types of functions but it could and probably should be. As it stands I will probably try to use the SV to get everything together tonally and then pop it into PRV work out the more finite timing and articulations. As far as that rigid MIDI computer game type sound that's what all those weird humanizing features are for. How well they work? Well I haven't played with the too much yet but they seem to do a pretty good job at first glance and from some of the vids I've seen. Really though when it comes down to it notation written on paper a couple hundred years ago would sound like that if inputting directly into a MIDI program as well. That's where the human computers came into play (the musicians). Their "flaws" and "imperfections" are what made the music real sounding. Not the way it was written. I kind of look at notation as old computer punchcards. A well trained musician would process the data in much the same way those old analog computers would. Again it is all a matter of what works best for you. If you are making music and enjoying yourself in the process that is all that really matters. Cheers, mate.

Okay Beep... s'good to know I hadn't annoyed you... it's not what I'm here for, athough it is sometimes inevitable that I'll cheese someone off from time to time.

Regarding the humanizing tools within Sonar/Cakewalk... I've never used them, and I prefer to give my MIDI tracks the personal touch, when I think it needs it. A bit long winded,  I know, and perhaps I should try to learn how to get the best out of those tools one day.

One thing is for sure... None of the Cakewalk peeps have commented in this post, whereas they have posted in some of the other X2 topics. So, either they are avoiding the issue because the SV is the same as it ever was, or... they are sworn to secrecy and they have a big surprise awaiting with a much enhanced scoring tool coming.........

@Elffin, What do you mean by traditional notation v half note, quarter note, etc.? Doesn't traditional notation use normal note values? I am obviously misunderstanding what you are saying. Thanks.

@synkrotron... Aw, dude. I've found you to be extremely pleasant and a joy to talk to. I couldn't see anyone getting ruffled about anything you post. I on the other hand have gotten a couple of people hot under the collar but I can be a little spastic at times. Heh. As far as the Cakesters not commenting on this I'm assuming it's because they don't have anything cooking in regards to the SV. Frankly considering the abuse those poor guys take every time they show up, even when it's good news, I don't blame them for not chiming in.

I think what Elifin is refering to is that Sonar's staff view does not work with any articulations,  just what you see on the staff.

For example:  a quarter note with a dot over it... is short,  and lengthwise should be played like an 8th note.  (or an 8th note followed by an 8th rest) 

konradh


@Elffin, What do you mean by traditional notation v half note, quarter note, etc.? Doesn't traditional notation use normal note values? I am obviously misunderstanding what you are saying. Thanks.

Sorry for that .. I meant not value icons  - rhythm symbols... 

For those wondering if Cakewalk staff were going to reply to this thread - i very much doubt... 

Cakewalk remind me of my wife when it comes to shopping ...I ask, ask and ask but she never listens 

Sonar is what it is. Expecting something more and crying about it is like going to a restaurant ordering a steak then complaining because it doesn't come with shrimp too.

never asked for shrimp.. Just wanted my steak 'well done'  !

Don't bother, man. The guy doesn't even know what he's talking about.

Tell us again how to get Guitar Rig 5 for $79 !!