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  • Sonar X2 Notation (p.8)
2012/08/05 09:43:13
djwayne
Let's look at it this way...Let's say Cakewalk does develope notation software and makes it so it is integrated, how many of you would pay the extra $500 that it costs ??  You think software grows on trees ?? It costs money to develope it and Cakewalk would have to recoupe that somehow...


Look if I want notation I'll buy a notation program or use one of the free ones out there. But I don't use it !!
2012/08/05 09:46:00
John
djwayne


Why should I have to pay for software developement that YOU want ??  I would prefer Cakewalk spends their developement money on stability and new features. Notation is something I don't need.

You're asking me to chip in and pay for this developement. Forget it !! Maybe you'd like to buy me some software ?? Of course you wouldn't. But I'm being selfish ????

You've been paying for it all along but not getting much from it. If it were improved it may prove to be worth what you contribute. It also might bring forth new users that would share the cost and thus bring it down.


That assumes that your part in it is measurable. 






 
2012/08/05 09:47:49
John
djwayne


Let's look at it this way...Let's say Cakewalk does develope notation software and makes it so it is integrated, how many of you would pay the extra $500 that it costs ??  You think software grows on trees ?? It costs money to develope it and Cakewalk would have to recoupe that somehow...


Look if I want notation I'll buy a notation program or use one of the free ones out there. But I don't use it !!

You do know that it is already in there. Its called the Staff View. Take a look at it. 
2012/08/05 09:52:58
djwayne
Yes I'm well aware of the current staff view, and that is more than what I need.
2012/08/05 10:07:18
Elffin
I've invested in cakewalk products since version 1. I've spent years developing templates, drum maps and developed workflow strategies without even counting the number of projects created during the last decade or so..

Really appreciate the advice to leave Sonar..  That really does provide me with a 'fix'.


2012/08/05 10:23:21
djwayne
The more things you demand from Sonar, the higher the price will be.
2012/08/05 10:29:24
pathos
djwayne


The more things you demand from Sonar, the higher the price will be.
Then using your own philosophy I think they should get rid of Pro Channel only because I don't use it, I shouldn't pay extra for it & it's development.


Doesn't make sense , does it?


2012/08/05 10:31:54
Brando
djwayne

Look if I want notation I'll buy a notation program or use one of the free ones out there. But I don't use it !!

It is not (only) about notation. If it were, I don't think as many would be upset about it. It is about using an existing view (the staff view) for composition, just as many use the piano roll, etc. Fixing an existing feature that is broken and hasn't worked right for years, while other features (step sequencer, matrix view) have been added. (As many have said - just exporting a MIDI file (or an XML file) to a notation program does not provide the same accuracy/workflow advantage of being able to compose right in the DAW.)
You might not listen to your radio in your car - but you expect it to work when you turn it on, right?






2012/08/05 10:38:02
John
djwayne


The more things you demand from Sonar, the higher the price will be.

Where did you get that idea from? 


It seems to trend in the opposite way. Let me see if I recall Sonar 1 XL had very few things in common with X1 as far as features. It didn't even support VST or ASIO. No audio snap. No making on the fly buses, meaning to add a buss one had to restart Sonar.  The feature list in Sonar X1 would overwhelm Sonar 1 XL. Yet the price has gone down drastically both for upgrades and for new purchases. This is a fact. You have no evidence to support your position. 


It seems by any measure you are more than just wrong in your assessment but obtusely wrong.   


Making things up is no way to persuade others to your view point. All it does is destroy your credibility.





  
2012/08/05 10:41:00
John
Another double post. 
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