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2012/12/19 04:17:20
Skyline_UK
I've got a 50 minute Sonar live concert project and would like to expoort it to WAV with track numbers and titles.  I need to keep it as one file as I want to preserve the inter-track banter.  How can I do that, without necessarily investing in another expensive piece of software? 
2012/12/19 08:12:03
digi2ns
Hmmm  Id like to see that too.

I know I do it with iTUNES but that is per song and not one long project WAV
2012/12/19 09:21:03
AT
Sound Forge, even the cheap "Studio" version.  It doesnt come w/ all the effects you already have in SONAR.  The old Pyro would insert tracks, but I don't think the new one does.  Besides, SF wouldn't be that more expensive and is an industry standard for a reason.

Inserting track # ain't rocket science - there should be something free out there to do it, but like iTunes, they probably work on compressed files.

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2012/12/19 10:22:32
CJaysMusic
You cannot put codes into wave files. You can embedd them into CD's. MP3's and WMA files can be encoded, not wave files. But they degrade sound quality!!

CD architect can encode ISRC codes, UPC codes, Artsit, and sonf name into the actual CD. Pyro can encode tages into MP3's
2012/12/19 11:11:54
SuperG
CJaysMusic


You cannot put codes into wave files. You can embedd them into CD's. MP3's and WMA files can be encoded, not wave files. But they degrade sound quality!!

CD architect can encode ISRC codes, UPC codes, Artsit, and sonf name into the actual CD. Pyro can encode tages into MP3's

Either CD Architect or SoundForge can can produce a CD similar to what your looking for. For 'inter-track' banter, you simply set the track gap to 0 instead of the normal 2 seconds. You can use the CD-TEXT features which will display album, artist, and track title on CD players so equipped. Many CD ripping programs, including quite a few free ones, are now able to extract track and title information directly from the CD if the CD was encoded using CD-TEXT features.
2012/12/19 11:23:45
CJaysMusic
For burning Cd's you can do that for wave files. Your quoting me as im wrong and im not SUPERG!!

MP3's and WMA files can encode tags into the actual audio file!! Wave files cannot do that!!! With Wave files, you can encode them onto the CD itself. just as i said in my post above.


Cj
2012/12/19 11:36:34
dantarbill
CJaysMusic


For burning Cd's you can do that for wave files. Your quoting me as im wrong and im not SUPERG!!

MP3's and WMA files can encode tags into the actual audio file!! Wave files cannot do that!!! With Wave files, you can encode them onto the CD itself. just as i said in my post above.


Cj


I'm not sure what "codes" you are looking to embed in your WAV file...but you CAN embed markers (and a surprising amount of other data) in a WAV file.  (Check the web for RIFF file format (http://www.sonicspot.com/guide/wavefiles.html).)  I do this all the time in iZotope RX.  I use RX on long live recordings to insert named markers for song and speaker transitions.  These markers will then show up when I subsequently open the file in WaveLab.  What's odd is that WaveLab reads those markers, but if you save the file in WaveLab, the markers will be removed and saved in a separate (.mrk) file.
2012/12/19 11:43:06
CJaysMusic


I'm not sure what "codes" you are looking to embed in your WAV file...

Im not looking for anything. I was answering a question.  Whats going on here!! REALLY!! Read the original posters question. I already know.


The poster, not me, wants to know and ill quote his post ''Ive got a 50 minute Sonar live concert project and would like to expoort it to WAV with track numbers and titles.  I need to keep it as one file as I want to preserve the inter-track banter.  How can I do that, without necessarily investing in another expensive piece of software?  

He is not importing it into another program! He wants it exported with artist embedded into it. Wave files do not do that




You cannot embed song tittles into a wave file. ill say it again. You cannot embed song tittles onto wave files. you can do it with MP3's and WMa files. Ill repeat this for reasons unkown to me. you can  do this with MP3's  and WMa files. 

The poster wants to have an exported wave file with artist info embeded into it. You cant do that !!!!!! ill say it agin if anyone is confused. You cant do that!!!!









2012/12/19 11:51:13
dantarbill
CJaysMusic

You cannot embed song tittles into a wave file.
 
Ok...Maybe YOU can't do that...but I CAN.  Perhaps, if you would like, I can send you a .wav file that has named track markers with song titles attached to the markers.  I'll admit that this isn't a common useage for wav files...but the capability is there...perhaps NOT in the software you're using though.
 
Perhaps it's the "tittles" that you can't embed...
2012/12/19 11:55:11
CJaysMusic
and it will show up in itunes and my car stereo? It wont! A digital wave file cannot be encoded with artist info. It can onlty be encoded if you burn it onto a cd as the cd is the one that gets encoded, not the wave file.

So sure sent it to me and ill see if i see artist info on my stereo and itunes. I already know i wont, but ill amuse you
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