CJaysMusic


and it will show up in itunes and my car stereo? It wont! A digital wave file cannot be encoded with artist info. It can onlty be encoded if you burn it onto a cd as the cd is the one that gets encoded, not the wave file.

So sure sent it to me and ill see if i see artist info on my stereo and itunes. I already know i wont, but ill amuse you

Note that I didn't say it would show up in iTunes or in your car stereo...nor did I say anything about "artist info".  The text in named track markers on a CD won't show up on your car stereo either (as far as I know).  For that, you need to embed CD Text.
 
See (https://www.yousendit.com/download/WUJhWUhwTlFwTVVsYzhUQw).
 
If you open this in WaveLab, you'll see the named markers.  If you drop it into an audio track in SONAR, it will also insert markers, but they won't have the names that are embedded in the file.  You won't see the markers at all in Windows MediaPlayer.  Note that "poorly supported" isn't the same as "can't be done".

Maybe I misread the OP - I thought he wanted to put the single wav file on a CD w/ tracks w/o breaking the recording into separate projects.  The banter between songs will also have to be marked separately.

I've never done that, but one should be able to. Just like you can add "secret" tracks to a CD.

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The text in named track markers on a CD won't show up on your car stereo either (as far as I know).  For that, you need to embed CD Text. 

Exactly.. I guess you read his post again. good for you!!


When he just exports a wave file as he said in his post, nothing will show up, unless its an MP3 or WMA file. He says nothnig of burning a CD in his post. He just say export. So that means it will be a wave file, not on a CD. He doesnt say export and burn!!

Everyone knows you can encode onto a cd..Well i thought!!

Dan is totally right. You can embed named cue markers and lots more stuff into a simple *.wav file. What a player understands or makes of it is another question. Here is the wav file Dan kindly uploaded for you (OneShot01.wav) as it comes up in R.. err, a DAW that supports the cues and the text:



I can write them as well with that DAW. But as AT sais, it's pretty likely there's also freeware which is able to write those chunks.

Try the Software:
Tag & Rename
http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm
 

In case there is still feet-stomping going on because there ain't no track numbers in my previous pic, here's a wave file as I understand what the OP is on about - a continuous wave file with positional info, track numbers and titles:

(Again, no CD text or special format involved. It's an ordinary wave file. I just created named markers and told the software to embed them in the rendered *.wav file)



You probably won't get this info displayed in your car stereo, but the OP never asked for that.

The cues can be very handy, because you can use them to split/snap/align/navigate or create (named) project markers etc - or get any kind of text info to a collaborator (in case clip notes won't cut it because he uses another DAW than you).  I can also embed tempo information and use that to automatically stretch the wav to fit to the project tempo. Then they are basically DIY rex files, just in simple wave file format.
Wav is a pretty versatile format .

I didn't mean to create a kerfuffle. 
I assume that cda (CD) file is therefore best.  So any recommendations on best software for achieving what I need, i.e. one live CD 'file' track but skippable by the listener to named and numbered tracks?
 

Skyline_UK


I didn't mean to create a kerfuffle. 
I assume that cda (CD) file is therefore best.  So any recommendations on best software for achieving what I need, i.e. one live CD 'file' track but skippable by the listener to named and numbered tracks?
 

I hope you find this information useful...


Technically you can put metadata into a WAV file.  The issue is that it's not supported across the board in the same manner that meta-data embedded in an MP3 file is.  So if you put meta-data into your WAV file, don't expect many playback devices or applications to make use of it -- not in the way that your expectations are met with meta-data in MP3 files.


If you want listeners to be able to skip through songs, and view titles and song numbers etc., then it depends on how you are delivering the media as well as what their playback mechanisms are.  

If you are delivering your media on a CD then this should be easy to achieve by using a tool such as the following:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/cdarchitect

You can embed text about the songs, album name, artists, as well as any identifying information such as ISRC codes, etc. along with the usual ability to specify when a track starts and gaps between tracks, etc.


If you are delivering a single WAV file, then I think you will have a hard time achieving your goal -- because of the lack of standard support for meta-data in WAV files you will need to have your listeners use specific playback software that can read that meta-data.  To be honest, I've never really come across an instance of this in the "real world".  For more information about meta-data in a WAV file from the almighty site of all known wisdome and knowledge:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAV#Metadata


Good luck, and I hope that answers your question...

CJaysMusic


For burning Cd's you can do that for wave files. Your quoting me as im wrong and im not SUPERG!!! 

MP3's and WMA files can encode tags into the actual audio file!! Wave files cannot do that!!! With Wave files, you can encode them onto the CD itself. just as i said in my post above.


Cj

Cj, I didn't intend to quote you as wrong. I'm sorry if it appeared that way. I simply wanted to point out that a viable method for playing music without an intergap delay is possible.


The problem with wave files is not that they cannot contain metadata, but that there are very few standards as to just what should be. Wave files are RIFF files, you can create a chunk, stuff it in the file and away you go. When RIFF files are decoded, any chunks that are not understood are simply ignored. The only standards that I'm aware of are the Broadcast Wave File extensions, Scott Studios, and there are some items that WMP recognizes. But, even if you mange to put the metadata you want into a file, you still need a player that does something with it.