HumbleNoise





I've worked around it with a hidden (Track Manager) Audio track and open that template with Cntrl 'N' as my 'Normal' template but I would like a true Blank template with operational Screen Sets. Maybe someday though I don't think many of us use a true blank template - could be wrong.

hehe--I recognize this particular war-dance, Humble - Your desire for a Normal template that has no tracks.  I'm sorry, but I still don't get what the big deal is.  You either use the tracks that come with the template, or you take 3 seconds (tops!--I timed it) to delete them.--  So not a biggie.

RB

The original project 5 let you set up the screen how you liked it (totally blank if you were a minimalist) and then saving as chief template. This would automatically open up when youstarted P5. Very elegant. Reason does the same. Sonar has that dumb choose option box pop up and it doesn't even have focus on my computer when it pops up. 

decide which effects/ instruments are going to be continually supported and make them 64 bit and don't install the rest by default. don't even give the option of installing them- they are dead wood. 

track bin view options should be set to "all" by default and not "custom"

anyways these are minor concerns- I'm very enthusiastic with how X1 is taking shape.

I think if Staff View isn't well and truly overdue for an overhaul, I can't imagine what would be. As always, I'm not asking for Finale-level stuff, but something significant to bring this tool up to a reasonable level. 

And even before that - quickfix territory here - could we please get some buttons put back in there? selecting note length from the HUD is OK (now that it works again) but takes more clicks than dedicated buttons (there, I said it!) and when you're entering music from the mouse like that, it really slows you down - and keybindings for these are still broken.  
 
And also - why on the green earth can we not input a key signature directly from the Staff View? Am I losing it, or is that basically the place it makes the most sense to want to do that? You need to call up a whole other dialog. Heck, leave it in the meter/key dialog if that's what makes the most sense in terms of program structure, but put some sort of simple shortcut to it on the staff view page - please????

Are there other notation programs that integrate nicely with Sonar? If there are I don't think Cakewalk should be wasting their time with it. Same as they don't need to extend audio editing capabilities when adobe audition/sf/wavelab are available.

Something to prevent apostrophe abuse in thread titles.

Twigman

Something to prevent apostrophe abuse in thread titles.

... now that's funny! No apostrophes were harmed in the making of this post. 


You might enjoy the book we were given recently: The Book of "Unnecessary" Quotation Marks... fun stuff!

I must say, I know it cleans things up, but I find it very frustrating to switch between clips and automation view on a track when I am mixing.

Have you ever had a hundred or so clips in an audio track (like a voice-over) and then clicked on clip gain etc? It takes forever to open. Also, you cant audition a clip when automation etc is selected, or am I missing the trick?

 Perhaps a "View All at once" option could be useful - then it's my problem if I have a convoluted workspace..

backwoods

Are there other notation programs that integrate nicely with Sonar? If there are I don't think Cakewalk should be wasting their time with it. Same as they don't need to extend audio editing capabilities when adobe audition/sf/wavelab are available. 

Oh boy. Here we go again. As stated in my post, I am not asking, nor is anyone asking as far as I've seen, for full-featured notation in SONAR. Those of us (and there are Quite A Few) who use the Staff View as an interface for entering and editing MIDI data, and/or printing out a quick sheet for someone else to play from, would like the tool to be at a level where it is a bit more usable and less crippled. That's all. It doesn't need to derail development of the rest of the program, it just needs a bit of attention. Why are we not allowed to ask for that?

The Staff View exists, so obviously CW thought at one point that it was worth bothering with. Several major competitors also see it as worth bothering with, as they provide substantially more complete implementations in their DAWs. I'd prefer to make a perfectly reasonable feature request in the context of a thread discussing such, than to switch platforms - or buy an expensive additional full notation package - for one feature that is currently there, and is basically functional but could easily be so much better. 

You may not use or need it but it's poor form to announce that CW shouldn't "waste their time" with something that is clearly important to a reasonable proportion of the user base. 

Oh, and, a channel on the console that lets me view a scrolling update of the Cakewalk forums while I work! Maybe I'll get some work done then :O)

Notation improvements for me too...