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  • Is X2 Really more stable and bug-free than X1? (p.2)
2012/10/17 19:56:31
wizard71
X2 runs as a standalone so you can keep X1 and compare. It may be better on your system, it may not, only one way to find out! :-) 

Bibs
2012/10/17 21:46:11
stevec
^^^^ What Bibs said.
 
It doesn't take long to peruse the first two pages of this forum to see that X2 is running great for some and not so well for others.   And for yet another group, about the same as X1, which is where I happen to fall.  All of which should indicate that there's really only one way to find out for sure.
 
2012/10/17 21:57:52
mudgel
I can just about repeat bubs experience word for word.

X1 was a complete no start and immediate crash and lock up of system un til X1C update. then it ran reasionably well and completely stable since X1D.

X2 has run flawlessly out of the box so to speak.

I got 1 single ProChannel white out episode since installation which was on the day of prerelease for early adopters via download. I've installed the quickfix patch and haven't had any quirky behaviour or difficulaties as reported by so may.

Again the same Laptop machine I had with X1 yet the experience is so different. As bub said "vengeance is mine". I complained so bitterly that one member here labeled me a pest. Yet many oif those same detractors are now having the same sort of issues with X2. Go figure.

This is the first version of SONAR that has worked so flawlessly for me in over 15 years of Cakewalking.  And my laptop is loaded with MS Office, Adobe CS5.5 Master Suite, Vegas 12 Pro, Pro Tools 9, reaper, Studio One ProV2  etc you name it and it all runs fine.
2012/10/17 22:20:27
Splat
If your concern is about stability you should always wait a service pack or two before you use the product in a professional environment, and besides you can run X1 and X2 side by side and find out for yourself. Upgrade now, then make your own decision on whether you should be using it in production now or later.
2012/10/17 22:56:38
shawng
I haven't had any real difficulties with either X1 or X2, but the problems you are reporting in your post mostly seem to be non-issues.  I used V-vocal recently to intentionally make a "chipmunk" type sound, but when I'm going for transparent, it's pretty transparent.  again it's not the best pitch processor around, but it's passable.  The issue with exporting entire mix only producing one file is er.. how it's supposed to work.  you need to select "tracks" and possibly "buses" if you are looking for stems.  the entire mix setting is there for a stereo file mixdown.  as far as the bridge using CPU, I can't reliably say since I still run the 32 bit version of sonar mostly, but I would expect any sort of bridge to add CPU cycles, just based on what it's doing.  is it noticeably worse than a third party bridge, or bridges in other hosts?
2012/10/18 01:29:15
bsteven
Such negativity with such low post counts... Seems like a pattern.



That's such BS.  We go to these forums to get feedback on whether we should invest more of our money or stick with "the devil we know."  The X1 rollout was such a negative experience for many users, I certainly understand and appreciate the honest negative reviews regardless of how active a user is on these boards.  I don't want to pay Roland to be a beta tester any more, and so far there hasn't been a big enough bribe, to get me to invest in another set of headaches.  


Sure, this is a very complex piece of software that can do wonderful things, but this company is notorious for making us pay for upgrades only to find the upgrade has the same issues as the previous version.  Instead of offering upgrade incentives, offer a trial version.  This tells the consumer that you have confidence in your product.
2012/10/18 06:19:12
Bristol_Jonesey
V vocal editor white screen often on longer clips (over 30 seconds). This makes it useless for me.


Cakewalk have ALWAYS recommended that V-Vocal be applied only to shorter clips. Split 'em up and try again.
2012/10/18 07:02:13
Freddie H
X1 worked well here too. Right out the box X2 is extremly stable and much better then X1 even though there are some bugs.
Well in a period of 6 month X2 Will be very stable platform to work with...
2012/10/18 07:31:02
ChuckC
I never did X1 as all the horror stories scared the crap out of me. I jumped from 8.5.3 to X2 and had 3 crashes in the beginning, after the 308 patch she has been rock solid for me.
2012/10/18 07:51:25
ProjectM
I dove straight into X1 - I was lokking for a new DAW becaue I was really tired of Sonar... then Cakewalk made a new DAW and I went for it straight away. I had it up and running straight away on my system. It worked. Now, there were some niggles but it all worked really well. X1d was the best Sonar I've experienced. Actually, the most stable and reliable DAW I've ever had!

So I dove straight into X2 as well and started working. There were some minor annoyances, most of them was fixed with the quick fix. There are some other things too. Not really bugs or showstoppers, but niggles. All in all, it's as stable, if not more stable, as X1d. There are a few random bugs but it's only a tiny bump in the road. It doesn't crash at least. I'm 99,8% happy and the final .2% is likely to be fixed really soon.
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