• SONAR
  • SONAR DEAD! Are these my options? (p.2)
2017/11/21 21:27:52
JonD
Option 4). Buy a license for Reaper ($60) and start to learn it at a comfortable pace.  Keep using Sonar until the day comes that it will no longer run on your system.  Hopefully, if that day comes, it's 2 years from now when you're fluent enough with Reaper so that the jump is painless.
2017/11/21 21:43:50
Zargg
Slugbaby
My DAW PC is off the network.  It'll stay that way. I'll keep using Splat until the computer starts failing.
When that happens, i'll look for another DAW.  And it WON'T be anything under the Gibson umbrella, if they have anything at that time.
 
And yesterday I decided to purchase the rolling updates on my next paycheque...


That sucks big time
I'll also keep my studio pc offline for a while.
I hope things get sorted before then
2017/11/21 22:10:31
paulo
Personally, I hate win 10 and I was already more than halfway down the road of thinking that whenever I next need a new DAW pc I will just get a new version of the win7 offline one that I run now. The only snag for me with doing that was that one day the lifetime updates would require win10, so at least now that won't be an issue .
 
Third party VST's will no doubt also become incompatible with win7 before too long, so I guess I'll be saving some money there too. Truth be told with what I have already the only obstacle between me and production greatness is me and I'm realistic enough to know that's never going to change much.
 
 
2017/11/21 22:19:30
fitzj
Presonus Studio is  a great piece of software as Craig mentioned  it's pretty close to Sonar.
amiller
1) Start a VERY long project to export ALL of my stuff and import what I can into a new DAW and start learning a new DAW from scratch and re-mixing everything in the new environment...YUCK!

2) Stay with a now dead DAW and hope that Windows updates don't break it...YUCK

3) Freeze Windows updates unplug from the network and use my SONAR DAW as a standalone DAW with no Internet connection and be stuck in time...Yuck!
 
Other options...anyone?




2017/11/21 22:26:39
Bristol_Jonesey
paulo
Personally, I hate win 10 and I was already more than halfway down the road of thinking that whenever I next need a new DAW pc I will just get a new version of the win7 offline one that I run now. The only snag for me with doing that was that one day the lifetime updates would require win10, so at least now that won't be an issue .
 
Third party VST's will no doubt also become incompatible with win7 before too long, so I guess I'll be saving some money there too. Truth be told with what I have already the only obstacle between me and production greatness is me and I'm realistic enough to know that's never going to change much.
 
 


+1
2017/11/21 22:32:18
BassDaddy
fitzj
Presonus Studio is  a great piece of software as Craig mentioned  it's pretty close to Sonar.
amiller
1) Start a VERY long project to export ALL of my stuff and import what I can into a new DAW and start learning a new DAW from scratch and re-mixing everything in the new environment...YUCK!

2) Stay with a now dead DAW and hope that Windows updates don't break it...YUCK

3) Freeze Windows updates unplug from the network and use my SONAR DAW as a standalone DAW with no Internet connection and be stuck in time...Yuck!
 
Other options...anyone?






I think option 3 and add: start saving for a new computer is what will work for me.
2017/11/21 22:40:50
Piotr
If anybody has stable and good production environment working in studio this is rather easy choice...
 
Option 3 and freezing setup as kind od hardware appliance. Who cares about Windows updates and their improvements?
 
OS is only to serve as platform fo application which is used... We are all tricked by updates cycles etc... But in million dollars industry many companies still are using Cobol and Fortran etc... Just because it is working and doing job...
 
Do you remember 1 of main rule for mixing and mastering ?  ;) Don't fix if not broken...
2017/11/21 23:16:55
Cactus Music
All the corperate syetms are still W7 and for good reasons. Security and compatability with hardware. I work in a Hospital. We have over a 100 computers all working 100% day in day out doing everything from email to monitoring peoples vitals. All W7. The techs say they will get about another 7 or 8 year out of the OS. 
 
I'm sorely tempted to re install W7 to my main DAW,, but I'd loose the $100 paid for W8.1. 
2017/11/22 02:33:35
jude77
I'm going back to tape. 
2017/11/22 02:43:07
Rski
 Sadly in our ever evolving computer world, we become thrilled to new enhancements that sometimes fire up our creative juices, so the joy of creating music becomes thrilling. I have to admit I sailed from home studio six then entered Sonar series, up to X3d. 
 
 Along the way there are always development bugs, simply unavoidable, I noticed that with 8 series, got kinda cluttered, sure it had enhancements, but I created a lot of good tunes with 4, stayed with it for quite awhile.
 
 The bottom line is the music retail business is losing big $ ...some article that was published by a prominent business magazine quoted some large losses of some big players competing in this industry, there is more to come.
 
 Software has eluded me over the years, at one time during the Twelve Tone days new versions were churning up the community with excitement, I was kinda part of that, not in a big way, sometimes things got a little bumpy.
 
On an old Pink Floyd film produced (LIVE at Pompeii) one of the band members quoted "you gotta have it in your head in the first place to get it out!" He was referring to the fact that even back in the 70's the technological marvels of that age, still required creativity of us to make music.
 
 Look at us now, the DAW really has evolved as a wonder music tool, we can manipulate errors to fix things, now don't kid yourself, the power of computer music sometimes wants to take control, such as mixing algorithms, third party services. 
 
 My vision of DAW isn't so much on the computer doing all those things, rather more of more realistic three dimensional modeling of mixers and plug ins, not the flat two dimensional images found on every current DAW platform.  
 
So my option, stay with what I have, its stable, see what comes further down the road.
 
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